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Post by terrifictom on Feb 17, 2019 15:57:03 GMT -6
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 17, 2019 16:59:14 GMT -6
I posted it this morning in the other thread. Hope its true.
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Post by Satchmo on Feb 18, 2019 7:07:18 GMT -6
I really hope this is legit, and not some quack!
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Post by sd51555 on Feb 18, 2019 7:55:41 GMT -6
I really hope this is legit, and not some quack! The big stimulus bill from 2008 or 2009 had $8.3 billion dollars in it for toilet ready research projects. That amount of money could have funded this guy's project 27,666 times. The CDC probably has a $300,000 budget for napkins in their cafeterias. This guy should get some of the science pie. Otherwise, our government betters are leaving us to be test rats to see if it jumps the species barrier, or it was a hoax all along. |
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Post by benmnwi on Feb 27, 2019 12:28:14 GMT -6
I couldn't reply to the other CWD thread for some reason, so I'll post on this one.
I couldn't watch the facebook video on Steve Porter's whitetail CWD thoughts, but is he saying it's just a coincidence that wild deer with CWD are being found right next to game farms with sick deer and formerly crappy fences? I agree that deer transport rules and DNR road killed deer dumping locations need to be improved though.
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Post by kl9 on Feb 27, 2019 12:47:00 GMT -6
I couldn't reply to the other CWD thread for some reason, so I'll post on this one. I couldn't watch the facebook video on Steve Porter's whitetail CWD thoughts, but is he saying it's just a coincidence that wild deer with CWD are being found right next to game farms with sick deer and formerly crappy fences? I agree that deer transport rules and DNR road killed deer dumping locations need to be improved though. No. I’d try and find a way to watch it. Definitely interesting |
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Post by sd51555 on Feb 27, 2019 13:01:37 GMT -6
I couldn't reply to the other CWD thread for some reason, so I'll post on this one. I couldn't watch the facebook video on Steve Porter's whitetail CWD thoughts, but is he saying it's just a coincidence that wild deer with CWD are being found right next to game farms with sick deer and formerly crappy fences? I agree that deer transport rules and DNR road killed deer dumping locations need to be improved though. What I posted wasn't clickable. It was just a picture. For the life of me, I cannot figure out how to link to something in toiletbook. |
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Post by benmnwi on Feb 27, 2019 13:17:29 GMT -6
I was able to watch the video. He makes some valid points regarding carcass transport problems and that needs to be improved. And I agree with him that Lou sucks.
It's a pretty big stretch in my opinion to say that the infected game farms all just happen to be built in the wrong location where CWD positive bones were on the ground. I'd also make the case that if that is possible that disease transmission from decades old bones is much more likely in game farms with 1000 deer per square mile than in the wild where there might be 50 deer per square mile if we are lucky. If random carcass dumping was the sole cause of CWD transfer then the disease should be randomly distributed around the state since carcasses are dumped everywhere and have been for decades. The thousands of tested deer in MN show that just isn't the case. The CWD positive wild deer are not randomly distributed on the landscape and instead seem to be clustered near deer farms.
See Pine Island, Winona, Brainerd, etc. It's a crappy deal all around regardless though.
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Post by batman on Feb 27, 2019 13:53:08 GMT -6
I was able to watch the video. He makes some valid points regarding carcass transport problems and that needs to be improved. And I agree with him that Lou sucks. It's a pretty big stretch in my opinion to say that the infected game farms all just happen to be built in the wrong location where CWD positive bones were on the ground. I'd also make the case that if that is possible that disease transmission from decades old bones is much more likely in game farms with 1000 deer per square mile than in the wild where there might be 50 deer per square mile if we are lucky. If random carcass dumping was the sole cause of CWD transfer then the disease should be randomly distributed around the state since carcasses are dumped everywhere and have been for decades. The thousands of tested deer in MN show that just isn't the case. The CWD positive wild deer are not randomly distributed on the landscape and instead seem to be clustered near deer farms. See Pine Island, Winona, Brainerd, etc. It's a crappy deal all around regardless though. We all will likely lose in th USDA does an epidemiology report for every cwd positive farm. These are confidential documents. Unless they can trace back to another farm with positives they never conclude anything - they only list possibilities. Taxidermy waste has popped a few times. Some speculate the Crow wing bone pile was not an issue until they logged it and disturbed everything but thats just speculation. We are not allowed to dump carcasses from harvested farmed deer inside the fence unless they are part of an approved compost setup. The bones inside the Merrifield farm are not from the owners captive deer herd. He has also never been offered a buyout. The feds only have $1.6 million or so a year allocated to buyout these farms, and thats not enough to depop bigger preserves. Merrifield herd has been operating under a plan that the DNR signed off on. |
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Post by batman on Mar 11, 2019 19:10:01 GMT -6
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