|
Post by Freeborn on Oct 26, 2019 8:44:29 GMT -6
I'd say one goat or sheep. No storage, self driven, if moved cuts to height, stores outside, self fertilizes and if you want to enjoy it you can just don't tell anybody. :-)
|
|
|
Post by kabic on Oct 26, 2019 9:16:09 GMT -6
|
|
|
Post by sd51555 on Oct 26, 2019 9:34:40 GMT -6
Now there's a contender! Let's score it... Yes - Lightest Yes - Most versatile (eliminates other implements) Yes - Enjoyable (driveable vs walk-behind) Yes - Best quality cut Yes - Wide range of cutting heights Yes - Doesn't require a tractor Yes - Takes up the least space Yes - Doesn't run over vegetation pre-cut Trail width and inability to take down incidental brush could present a challenge. Definitely a top prospect though.
|
|
|
Post by Foggy on Oct 26, 2019 9:35:10 GMT -6
Would need a second tractor to pull the first tractor outta the mud. Would have to keep the disc and blade to fix the ruts. Could always mount a winch on it.....to get you outta a few thin spots......but I doubt you would get stuck too often. Nice rig. You really should reconsider. (I own a Masdam portable HD cable winch that pulls about 3 ton. Never used it....but I bought it for insurance after putting my tractor into the swamp one day some years ago.)
|
|
|
Post by Foggy on Oct 26, 2019 9:42:07 GMT -6
Don't buy anything until you get yourself some grid power and a welder. Then at least you can fix the vehicles you overload to haul all that chit to your camp.
Not sure why we discuss this any longer. Your mind is made up.....why confuse you with the facts? Grin emoji.
|
|
|
Post by Foggy on Oct 26, 2019 9:48:13 GMT -6
Get your ATV and after that flail falls off....you can always get KBB or Dakota Peter to hold that Honda mower I saw in your shabbin.
|
|
|
Post by biglakebass on Oct 26, 2019 10:11:02 GMT -6
Now there's a contender! Let's score it... Yes - Lightest Yes - Most versatile (eliminates other implements) Yes - Enjoyable (driveable vs walk-behind) Yes - Best quality cut Yes - Wide range of cutting heights Yes - Doesn't require a tractor Yes - Takes up the least space Yes - Doesn't run over vegetation pre-cut Trail width and inability to take down incidental brush could present a challenge. Definitely a top prospect though. No - durability
|
|
|
Post by sd51555 on Oct 26, 2019 10:16:38 GMT -6
Don't buy anything until you get yourself some grid power and a welder. Then at least you can fix the vehicles you overload to haul all that chit to your camp. Not sure why we discuss this any longer. Your mind is made up.....why confuse you with the facts? Grin emoji. For shits and giggles. I'm home sniffling and hackin this weekend, so I've got to keep myself and the cat busy. I think it's a fun exercise in meeting the need presented. Every outfit has different objectives, ways to meet them, and unique challenges. Mine is geared towards a completely different set of objectives. I haven't really presented the entire picture given how different it is. But here's the focus I have, and the lens through which I'm trying to solve for it. How can I produce the most food possible with my plot acres? How can I produce the appropriate (not consumed too early or ignored entirely) forage desirability at the right time? How can I do it with the least inputs(lime and fertilizer)? How can I do with the least intervention (spraying)? How can I sustainably subdue undesirable vegetation (weeds) long term? How can I eliminate the undesirable chores of plotting (liming/spraying)? Will my soil function and biology be getting better or worse from my management? Will this model be resilient when faced with drought or flood? I haven't solved for hardly any of this. But I can work backwards from what I know doesn't work and go from there.
|
|
Coda1
Full Member
Posts: 242
Likes: 303
Location: Hunting north of Staples, MN
Zone: 3B
|
Post by Coda1 on Oct 26, 2019 10:40:22 GMT -6
Don't buy anything until you get yourself some grid power and a welder. Then at least you can fix the vehicles you overload to haul all that chit to your camp. Not sure why we discuss this any longer. Your mind is made up.....why confuse you with the facts? Grin emoji. For shits and giggles. I'm home sniffling and hackin this weekend, so I've got to keep myself and the cat busy. I think it's a fun exercise in meeting the need presented. Every outfit has different objectives, ways to meet them, and unique challenges. Mine is geared towards a completely different set of objectives. I haven't really presented the entire picture given how different it is. But here's the focus I have, and the lens through which I'm trying to solve for it. How can I produce the most food possible with my plot acres? How can I produce the appropriate (not consumed too early or ignored entirely) forage desirability at the right time? How can I do it with the least inputs(lime and fertilizer)? How can I do with the least intervention (spraying)? How can I sustainably subdue undesirable vegetation (weeds) long term? How can I eliminate the undesirable chores of plotting (liming/spraying)? Will my soil function and biology be getting better or worse from my management? Will this model be resilient when faced with drought or flood? I haven't solved for hardly any of this. But I can work backwards from what I know doesn't work and go from there.
I think that is pretty much what all of us want to accomplish. Problem is about half of those objectives are impossible to achieve with the other half. I do twice yearly tillage. This helps grow the most food with good germination and weed control with no spraying required but costs me in soil organic matter and moisture. How much fertilizer? High levels hurts soil biology and add cost but low levels reduce yield. Each of us needs to decide were we are willing to compromise.
|
|
|
Post by Foggy on Oct 26, 2019 11:10:07 GMT -6
Don't buy anything until you get yourself some grid power and a welder. Then at least you can fix the vehicles you overload to haul all that chit to your camp. Not sure why we discuss this any longer. Your mind is made up.....why confuse you with the facts? Grin emoji. For shits and giggles. I'm home sniffling and hackin this weekend, so I've got to keep myself and the cat busy. I think it's a fun exercise in meeting the need presented. Every outfit has different objectives, ways to meet them, and unique challenges. Mine is geared towards a completely different set of objectives. I haven't really presented the entire picture given how different it is. But here's the focus I have, and the lens through which I'm trying to solve for it. How can I produce the most food possible with my plot acres? How can I produce the appropriate (not consumed too early or ignored entirely) forage desirability at the right time? How can I do it with the least inputs(lime and fertilizer)? How can I do with the least intervention (spraying)? How can I sustainably subdue undesirable vegetation (weeds) long term? How can I eliminate the undesirable chores of plotting (liming/spraying)? Will my soil function and biology be getting better or worse from my management? Will this model be resilient when faced with drought or flood? I haven't solved for hardly any of this. But I can work backwards from what I know doesn't work and go from there. None of that chit matters. ^. ..... It's all about what puts the biggest grin on your face. . Power does that for me.
|
|
|
Post by nhmountains on Oct 26, 2019 11:11:12 GMT -6
Hey guys, I'm looking for some help. If you got to start from scratch, what would you suggest for maintaining plots, trails, and lawn at your hunting camp? What would be the: Lightest Most versatile (eliminates other implements) Enjoyable (driveable vs walk-behind) Best quality cut Wide range of cutting heights Doesn't require a tractor Takes up the least space Doesn't run over vegetation pre-cut Go. Ok here goes, I have owned my land for 15 years. Get your self an ATV, a disc that your ATV can pull and a cultipacker. The cultipacker and disc can be stored outside. You may need a solo spreader if your leaf blower breaks down. Screw getting a cutter, I have one that has been collecting dust for 10 years. If you have grass to cut get yourself a lawn mower. Oh forgot, get yourself a sprayer. I also have a pull behind funnel spreader.I do 6 to 8 acres a year with this stuff. Minimum stuff that has to be kept inside and probably all the ATV accessories can be bought for what that flail mower costs. Your plots speak for themselves. Year after year you produce some of the best looking plots on the internet.
|
|
|
Post by Freeborn on Oct 26, 2019 15:25:04 GMT -6
Ok here goes, I have owned my land for 15 years. Get your self an ATV, a disc that your ATV can pull and a cultipacker. The cultipacker and disc can be stored outside. You may need a solo spreader if your leaf blower breaks down. Screw getting a cutter, I have one that has been collecting dust for 10 years. If you have grass to cut get yourself a lawn mower. Oh forgot, get yourself a sprayer. I also have a pull behind funnel spreader.I do 6 to 8 acres a year with this stuff. Minimum stuff that has to be kept inside and probably all the ATV accessories can be bought for what that flail mower costs. Your plots speak for themselves. Year after year you produce some of the best looking plots on the internet. The goal is not attractive plots its plots that deer use when you want them to use them. My plots are designed to pull and hold deer primarily during rifle season. I need to improve my bow season plots but I need a bull dozer to help with that. Who cares about diversity, OM or other goals if your plots don't pull and hold deer while your in stand.
|
|
|
Post by sd51555 on Oct 26, 2019 16:20:25 GMT -6
Your plots speak for themselves. Year after year you produce some of the best looking plots on the internet. The goal is not attractive plots its plots that deer use when you want them to use them. My plots are designed to pull and hold deer primarily during rifle season. I need to improve my bow season plots but I need a bull dozer to help with that. Who cares about diversity, OM or other goals if your plots don't pull and hold deer while your in stand.I think one drives the other, especially in adverse weather conditions. Aside from the barley heads, my most browsed plot plant this summer was a weed - willowherb.
|
|
|
Post by sd51555 on Oct 26, 2019 16:25:34 GMT -6
Ok here goes, I have owned my land for 15 years. Get your self an ATV, a disc that your ATV can pull and a cultipacker. The cultipacker and disc can be stored outside. You may need a solo spreader if your leaf blower breaks down. Screw getting a cutter, I have one that has been collecting dust for 10 years. If you have grass to cut get yourself a lawn mower. Oh forgot, get yourself a sprayer. I also have a pull behind funnel spreader.I do 6 to 8 acres a year with this stuff. Minimum stuff that has to be kept inside and probably all the ATV accessories can be bought for what that flail mower costs. Your plots speak for themselves. Year after year you produce some of the best looking plots on the internet. I don't know about that. Most of everything I tried this year failed. I did try to keep myself in a position to have something (clover) if my tinkerings failed. Come to think of it, the only two that worked was the early barley broadcast in May (and I went way too light on the rate), and knocking out the horsetail with lime. Failures included: Pumpkins Faba beans Sorghum Wildflowers Sunflowers Squash Buckwheat Oats into standing clover Rape into standing clover I'm sure there's more, but you get the picture.
|
|
Coda1
Full Member
Posts: 242
Likes: 303
Location: Hunting north of Staples, MN
Zone: 3B
|
Post by Coda1 on Oct 26, 2019 17:12:11 GMT -6
The goal is not attractive plots its plots that deer use when you want them to use them. My plots are designed to pull and hold deer primarily during rifle season. I need to improve my bow season plots but I need a bull dozer to help with that. Who cares about diversity, OM or other goals if your plots don't pull and hold deer while your in stand.
If you are only going to hunt it one or two years then everything else doesn't matter. If you want to keep having good plots it would be wise to maintain or even improve your soil.
|
|