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Post by Bwoods11 on Jul 19, 2019 12:46:04 GMT -6
I have two flowing springs that are about 30 yards apart on my new place. I might need some advice on a potential pond? We have a pond expert on here correct?
Thoughts were to dig out and combine the two springs into one cool little pond, possible have fish? Just not sure if it is feasible. Any ideas, I can post a couple pics.
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Post by wiscwhip on Jul 19, 2019 12:55:14 GMT -6
2 springs...one pond, hopefully that is nothing like 2 girls...one cup!!!
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jul 19, 2019 12:55:50 GMT -6
Another pic
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Post by mnaaron on Jul 19, 2019 14:13:19 GMT -6
Is it coming out the side of the hill? Hard to tell in pics
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jul 19, 2019 14:43:32 GMT -6
Yes on the side of a hill, drains into a flowing creek.
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Post by mnaaron on Jul 19, 2019 21:35:13 GMT -6
Should be able to make a small pond if you have the area to excavate out and the ground is firm enough. Must have a clay layer where the water is existing the back. Pretty little creek. Wonder if it runs all season or just when enough rain...
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Post by benmnwi on Jul 19, 2019 22:04:58 GMT -6
How much water flows out of the springs? My neighbor built a sand dam across a seasonal trickle and dug a 15' hole in the middle of the 1/4 acre pond and it has actually been able to sustain bluegills, bass, crappies and rainbow trout. He stocked if last summer right after he built it. The trickle is cold water, but if typically shuts off completely in a dry spell. This is in se mn. Based on that, I'd put up a dam and dig a deep hole in front of the dam and call it good and you can probably grow something.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jul 20, 2019 7:20:18 GMT -6
It’s enough water from the spring to flow (trickle) all year and during coldest part of the winter. The creek flows year round too so there maybe more springs in the area.
Good advice I’m going to look into it. If I could dam the creek and the spring both it would be incredible but not sure that would work or be feasible.
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Post by Sandbur on Jul 20, 2019 8:31:06 GMT -6
Don’t forget the permitting process.
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Post by benmnwi on Jul 20, 2019 9:13:28 GMT -6
My neighbor skipped the permitting step and so far he is fine. You might want to look on a map to see if your spring is identified on the state site or if it is classified a wetland. If not, you could just throw up a dam and call if a farm pond. I'll likely build a pond like that if the deer hunting declines at my house and ducks/fish become more of a priority
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Post by benmnwi on Jul 20, 2019 9:18:30 GMT -6
I would dam the spring since I think that would work well and fly under the radar. I don't think damming a creek would be too good though since the dnr doesn't permit that and high creek flooding could blow out the dam.
Ponds are really cool though- I'd like to eventually have one fish pond and a duck pond of two.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jul 22, 2019 8:43:21 GMT -6
I would dam the spring since I think that would work well and fly under the radar. I don't think damming a creek would be too good though since the dnr doesn't permit that and high creek flooding could blow out the dam. Ponds are really cool though- I'd like to eventually have one fish pond and a duck pond of two. I wonder if a creek could be made into a dam, as long as it has overflow? I don't know much about this? The creek flows into a good sized river, not sure if a dam would serve as a holding pond? I just don't know, but it would be kick as if it worked.
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Post by biglakebass on Jul 22, 2019 9:16:49 GMT -6
Contact the area hydrologist. They should be able to answer every question you have on what can be done and what would work. files.dnr.state.mn.us/waters/dow_area_staff.pdfThen again, if you want to fly under the radar, you will just have to try something to see if something works. With watershed, I personally would steer clear of trying to fly under the radar.....
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Post by mnaaron on Jul 22, 2019 9:56:24 GMT -6
See if it is a protected waters of the state before you do anything.
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Post by mnaaron on Jul 22, 2019 9:59:07 GMT -6
What is the watershed area? I would be very careful on how you build any dam before sizing for peak flows.
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