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Post by kabic on Feb 26, 2017 11:54:14 GMT -6
And christians are bunch of anti-science, child abusing, delusional hypocrites, I even have links! All of the right wing people that call themselves christian are like this! Aren't sweeping generalizations great I'm definitely lean conservative but agree the extreme left and right are both bad. I said it once and I'll say it again I just want the government to leave us alone . We can decide for ourself if we want to own guns, have abortions and make are own decsion on whatever other hot button issue .
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Post by Freeborn on Feb 26, 2017 12:11:40 GMT -6
That's the issue with labels you don't know where people really stand. If the center is a bell shaped curve then yes the far right are nuts just like the far left. The question is where do you use moderate-left and moderate right. As a fiscal conservative social moderate I am probably more moderate except under fiscal economic policy. I believe in Equal opportunity unlike the far left which believes in equal outcomes.
The media in general is moderate left to far left in my opinion. There are exceptions like Fox which is moderate right but there are news programs that are far right.
One thing I don't see from the moderate right to far right is the Hypocrisy you see frequently from the moderate to far left. The moderate left champions individual rights, Women's, sex, human but will compromise their rights if it fits their political agenda. The groups that make up the left (including the press) band together much better than the right for political gain. You don't see that from the far right. For example the NOW gang said nothing about Bills or JFK's improprieties and they say nothing about cultures that frequently abuse women (the seven countries in the middle east). My guess is those supporters of the left would not want their daughters subjected to Sharia law? This is only one issue but you won't get the press talking about it.
Its a complex discussion and its good that people talk about it. There is no way to have this kind of discussion on a forum because people can be conservative, moderate and liberal depending on the issue.
Do I still think there is a far left agenda supported by allot of the press, yes I do.
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Post by chummer16 on Feb 26, 2017 14:14:01 GMT -6
The problem with the press is it is not even. The majority of the press is left. Obama only had Fox to call him out. The rest didn't even challenge him over "like your plan keep your plan" (huge lie, he knew it wasn't possible). Trump is getting a barrage everyday from every outlet, they are determined to bring him down. There are even several on fox that take daily shots at him. If the press would have held Obama accountable on anything they would have more credability going after trump. They didn't do their job for the last 8 years so I don't need to hear from them now.
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Post by wiscwhip on Feb 26, 2017 16:49:32 GMT -6
This ^^^!!!
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Post by mclovin on Feb 28, 2017 16:52:21 GMT -6
Loving the Tiny Trump memes. The internet is so much more than just naked ladies and habitat forums.
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Post by chummer16 on Feb 28, 2017 19:38:01 GMT -6
Anybody hoping they deport the illegals the dems are bringing to the speach tonight. How great would that be if Trump stopped his speach, pointed them out and some ICE guys came in and took them out. Eventually they will learn every time they try to show him up he hits them over the head with a sledge hammer.
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Post by mclovin on Feb 28, 2017 22:48:37 GMT -6
Watching the replay right now. Trumps telling Congress to come up with a plan to replace Obamacare. I thought he had a plan already? Then he follows it with a play by play directive of...wait for it...Obamacare. this guy is a politician just like the rest of them. Nothing will change except our money will be worth less in 4 years just like 4 years ago, and the 4 years before that, and the 4 years before that. #infinitysign
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Post by Foggy on Feb 28, 2017 23:32:31 GMT -6
Watching the replay right now. Trumps telling Congress to come up with a plan to replace Obamacare. I thought he had a plan already? Then he follows it with a play by play directive of...wait for it...Obamacare. this guy is a politician just like the rest of them. Nothing will change except our money will be worth less in 4 years just like 4 years ago, and the 4 years before that, and the 4 years before that. #infinitysign If you are finding fault with that speech by Trump......you are not going to be happy with the future. I think he NAILED it. Will it all happen according to the dream? Dunno....but the dream is sound IMO. Never gonna happen if bi-partisan support does not come. But at least not getting rammed down throats with lies and deceit of OBAMACARE.
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Post by wiscwhip on Mar 1, 2017 6:24:32 GMT -6
Bottom line, he can't really fuck up anything to bad if Congress doesn't allow it to happen. As long as I don't get some super left, liberal assed, judge appointees on the SCOTUS, and he doesn't fuck stuff up any worse that Obumble did over the last 8 years(and I don't think he will), I can sleep soundly knowing my Constitutional rights will be preserved for basically the rest of my life instead of having Hillbitch's appointees destroy what was left of them in a few short years.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Mar 1, 2017 6:28:24 GMT -6
Watching the replay right now. Trumps telling Congress to come up with a plan to replace Obamacare. I thought he had a plan already? Then he follows it with a play by play directive of...wait for it...Obamacare. this guy is a politician just like the rest of them. Nothing will change except our money will be worth less in 4 years just like 4 years ago, and the 4 years before that, and the 4 years before that. #infinitysign McLovin is the doomsday man! Bahahahahahaha!
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Post by Catscratch on Mar 1, 2017 7:14:07 GMT -6
Seems like everything is the same, but opposite from Obummer's terms; Republicans screamed that they wouldn't work with Obummer, now democrats are doing the same. Obummer said "that could be my son" and that LEO's are overstepping their bounds (created hate against LEO's with lot of resulting violence). Trump says that we need to vet and shut down immigration, that Mexicans are rapist and drug lords. Now there is hate for minorities, immigrants, and foreigners. Obummer forced Healthcare and anything else he couldn't get voted in with executive orders... well I guess Trump is doing that also.
Point is, I don't think things have changed much other than it's my side's turn to be in charge (which is HUGE right now).
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Post by Foggy on Mar 1, 2017 8:55:37 GMT -6
^^ BIGLY Juuuge!
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Post by westbranch on Mar 1, 2017 9:17:29 GMT -6
Seems like everything is the same, but opposite from Obummer's terms; Republicans screamed that they wouldn't work with Obummer, now democrats are doing the same. Obummer said "that could be my son" and that LEO's are overstepping their bounds (created hate against LEO's with lot of resulting violence). Trump says that we need to vet and shut down immigration, that Mexicans are rapist and drug lords. Now there is hate for minorities, immigrants, and foreigners. Obummer forced Healthcare and anything else he couldn't get voted in with executive orders... well I guess Trump is doing that also. Point is, I don't think things have changed much other than it's my side's turn to be in charge (which is HUGE right now). This seems to be part of my issue, I don't view either side as being my team.
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Post by Freeborn on Mar 1, 2017 9:27:18 GMT -6
Seems like everything is the same, but opposite from Obummer's terms; Republicans screamed that they wouldn't work with Obummer, now democrats are doing the same. Obummer said "that could be my son" and that LEO's are overstepping their bounds (created hate against LEO's with lot of resulting violence). Trump says that we need to vet and shut down immigration, that Mexicans are rapist and drug lords. Now there is hate for minorities, immigrants, and foreigners. Obummer forced Healthcare and anything else he couldn't get voted in with executive orders... well I guess Trump is doing that also. Point is, I don't think things have changed much other than it's my side's turn to be in charge (which is HUGE right now). I would not yet lump Trump anywhere near Obama. Requiring unlawful Illegal aliens to be deported is not the same as supporting unlawful rioters who destroy public and private party as well as stoke the flames of racial divide. Obama had opportunities to work towards mending the racial divide and instead he made it worse. Watch the Macro-economic indicators, Participation rate, unemployment, GDP and you will see if Trumps actions will help people.
If Trump is successful he will pull allot of voters under the Trump umbrella including allot of minorities.
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Post by mclovin on Mar 1, 2017 10:30:28 GMT -6
Watching the replay right now. Trumps telling Congress to come up with a plan to replace Obamacare. I thought he had a plan already? Then he follows it with a play by play directive of...wait for it...Obamacare. this guy is a politician just like the rest of them. Nothing will change except our money will be worth less in 4 years just like 4 years ago, and the 4 years before that, and the 4 years before that. #infinitysign If you are finding fault with that speech by Trump......you are not going to be happy with the future. I think he NAILED it. Will it all happen according to the dream? Dunno....but the dream is sound IMO. Never gonna happen if bi-partisan support does not come. But at least not getting rammed down throats with lies and deceit of OBAMACARE. Honestly I turned it off after the VOICE part or the ACA stuff, don't remember because I was in a chemically altered mental state. But I do think if we as a nation are ever going to get all the coloreds and non Christians out of our country or at the very least interred in some kind of camp, maybe force them to do some labor with the promise of eventual citizenship or freedom. The VOICE program sounds like a good start. free photo hosting
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