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Post by Bwoods11 on Oct 10, 2019 8:27:04 GMT -6
I was just thinking of the survey and then saw my Outdoor News and skimmed the article again. A big part of the issue is more kids growing up in metro areas. In my sons classes in rural MN (Minnewaska) there are a bunch of kids that get into the outdoors. Ducks/Geese, pheasants, deer-mostly archery and they also love to shoot carp with the bows.
It is a high number, I would say on percentage basis almost as high as when I grew up. These kids are serious, hunting every weekend. They will be buying out of state tags too... hunting Colorado, SD, ND, Canada, Iowa, Wyoming etc... We never did that when we were young?
The lost numbers are probably in the metro area.
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Post by kooch on Oct 10, 2019 8:36:59 GMT -6
In Burnsville it's illegal for my kid to shoot his bb gun in the backyard. This doesn't help.
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Post by smsmith on Oct 10, 2019 8:59:10 GMT -6
I was just thinking of the survey and then saw my Outdoor News and skimmed the article again. A big part of the issue is more kids growing up in metro areas. In my sons classes in rural MN (Minnewaska) there are a bunch of kids that get into the outdoors. Ducks/Geese, pheasants, deer-mostly archery and they also love to shoot carp with the bows. It is a high number, I would say on percentage basis almost as high as when I grew up. These kids are serious, hunting every weekend. They will be buying out of state tags too... hunting Colorado, SD, ND, Canada, Iowa, Wyoming etc... We never did that when we were young? The lost numbers are probably in the metro area.Of course they are, the urbanization of America impacts many things. You are in a bit of an "anomaly" for an area, that Alex area is growing rapidly. Most of outstate MN is shrinking.
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Post by sd51555 on Oct 10, 2019 9:27:21 GMT -6
I was just thinking of the survey and then saw my Outdoor News and skimmed the article again. A big part of the issue is more kids growing up in metro areas. In my sons classes in rural MN (Minnewaska) there are a bunch of kids that get into the outdoors. Ducks/Geese, pheasants, deer-mostly archery and they also love to shoot carp with the bows. It is a high number, I would say on percentage basis almost as high as when I grew up. These kids are serious, hunting every weekend. They will be buying out of state tags too... hunting Colorado, SD, ND, Canada, Iowa, Wyoming etc... We never did that when we were young? The lost numbers are probably in the metro area.Of course they are, the urbanization of America impacts many things. You are in a bit of an "anomaly" for an area, that Alex area is growing rapidly. Most of outstate MN is shrinking. you know what really frustrates me? Kids know everything about animals on the other side of the planet. They aren't taught one damn thing about the animals here.
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Post by Sandbur on Oct 10, 2019 9:52:21 GMT -6
I was just thinking of the survey and then saw my Outdoor News and skimmed the article again. A big part of the issue is more kids growing up in metro areas. In my sons classes in rural MN (Minnewaska) there are a bunch of kids that get into the outdoors. Ducks/Geese, pheasants, deer-mostly archery and they also love to shoot carp with the bows. It is a high number, I would say on percentage basis almost as high as when I grew up. These kids are serious, hunting every weekend. They will be buying out of state tags too... hunting Colorado, SD, ND, Canada, Iowa, Wyoming etc... We never did that when we were young? The lost numbers are probably in the metro area.Of course they are, the urbanization of America impacts many things. You are in a bit of an "anomaly" for an area, that Alex area is growing rapidly. Most of outstate MN is shrinking. Depends on the area. I don’t think this corridor from metro to north of Brainerd is shrinking. True farm country has shrinking populations.
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Post by Sandbur on Oct 10, 2019 9:54:39 GMT -6
I have to say that I do most of my small game hunting until after rifle season on public land or sportsman’s club land that is open to hunting.
I don’t shoot anything while small game hunting anyway. Just walk around with the dog.
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Post by smsmith on Oct 10, 2019 11:12:22 GMT -6
Of course they are, the urbanization of America impacts many things. You are in a bit of an "anomaly" for an area, that Alex area is growing rapidly. Most of outstate MN is shrinking. Depends on the area. I don’t think this corridor from metro to north of Brainerd is shrinking. True farm country has shrinking populations. True enough. It won't be all that many years before Rice and Royalton are indistinguishable from the north St. Cloud 'burbs. I'm sure the same thing can be said for the I94 corridor (e.g. the Alex area).
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Post by Sandbur on Oct 10, 2019 11:37:51 GMT -6
Depends on the area. I don’t think this corridor from metro to north of Brainerd is shrinking. True farm country has shrinking populations. True enough. It won't be all that many years before Rice and Royalton are indistinguishable from the north St. Cloud 'burbs. I'm sure the same thing can be said for the I94 corridor (e.g. the Alex area). Yup.
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Post by Sandbur on Oct 10, 2019 11:39:18 GMT -6
Depends on the area. I don’t think this corridor from metro to north of Brainerd is shrinking. True farm country has shrinking populations. True enough. It won't be all that many years before Rice and Royalton are indistinguishable from the north St. Cloud 'burbs. I'm sure the same thing can be said for the I94 corridor (e.g. the Alex area). Living on a gravel road with ag fields around might give me enough years of isolation to get by. I shouldn’t say it!
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Post by Bwoods11 on Oct 10, 2019 11:42:14 GMT -6
I'd like to look county by county how the overall population is doing in MN. Definitely some pockets of loss, and then some major growing areas like Alexandria, Brainerd, Spicer, Detroit Lakes, and I have heard Fergus Falls/Battle Lake...all due to the lakes in my opinion(?) A lot of people are moving to the lakes after retirement and/or are just sick of the metro. We see quite a few young families in our area, and they work in other towns (Alex, Morris, Benson) in some cases even commute to St. Cloud.
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Post by biglakebass on Oct 10, 2019 12:21:57 GMT -6
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Post by smsmith on Oct 10, 2019 12:25:34 GMT -6
I'd like to look county by county how the overall population is doing in MN. Definitely some pockets of loss, and then some major growing areas like Alexandria, Brainerd, Spicer, Detroit Lakes, and I have heard Fergus Falls/Battle Lake...all due to the lakes in my opinion(?) A lot of people are moving to the lakes after retirement and/or are just sick of the metro. We see quite a few young families in our area, and they work in other towns (Alex, Morris, Benson) in some cases even commute to St. Cloud. Todd lost a bit since 2010. www.census.gov/quickfacts/toddcountyminnesotaIt appears to be pretty much static since 1980, with a slight decline during that time period www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=kf7tgg1uo9ude_&met_y=population&idim=county:27153&hl=en&dl=en
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Post by Bwoods11 on Oct 10, 2019 12:54:31 GMT -6
My county is up 1.1%...! Douglas County up over 5%. I figured Traverse County has to be one of the worst (down 6%) you can buy a house out there for peanuts.
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Post by Foggy on Oct 10, 2019 13:42:19 GMT -6
I spent some time on that site looking at a variety of statistics for the various states / cities. Fascinating stuff...lots of data. Worth some time to explore.
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Post by wiscwhip on Oct 11, 2019 11:10:23 GMT -6
It will never be the same as it was even 15 years ago, much less 30. I remember as a kid back in Juneau Co., we would leave the house before dawn and hit the duck/goose blinds at the Necedah National Wildlife Refuge in the morning, head home and clean our kill, grab a sammich, then head over to the county old folks home west of New Lisbon and hunt pheasants till about 2 or 2:30, then head back home, clean the pheasants, then grab our bows and get into our treestands until dark. If pheasant wasn't open, then it was grouse/squirrels on the large tracts of county land near Castle Rock Lake. This was a typical fall weekend for us. We would pray for late games for the Badgers and Packers so we could at least watch some of the games on TV, otherwise we were relegated to listening on the radio in the truck while we were driving between hunts.
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