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Post by batman on Nov 19, 2019 15:39:24 GMT -6
For starters we will only attack trees with leaves. I figure killing what we can is a start. Maybe a dumb thought but i considered leaving a couple small super thick areas alone. The cover is impressive. My thoughts are what does it matter when the neighbors arent going to touch theirs. So it will come back. Number 1 effort. Eradicate around stands for about 100 yds out. Not that we can shoot 100 yds in many spots but to see a deer approaching would be nice. Eradicate brush around stands and your success may drop. (think of your dad this year) Deer are like fish. They like it in that cover.
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Post by biglakebass on Nov 19, 2019 15:54:59 GMT -6
I had pondered that too. I literally cant see 30 to 40 yds to my south any more.
Back in early 2000s i shot bucks 3 years in a row to my south. I cant even see a deer over there now. Its a nice pinch spot.
But u r right. Habitat management is not for the faint of heart. Lolll
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 19, 2019 18:06:23 GMT -6
I had pondered that too. I literally cant see 30 to 40 yds to my south any more. Back in early 2000s i shot bucks 3 years in a row to my south. I cant even see a deer over there now. Its a nice pinch spot. But u r right. Habitat management is not for the faint of heart. Lolll I like thick cover for deer hunting with a few shooting lanes. Pressured bucks might move in daylight in thick cover.
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Post by biglakebass on Nov 19, 2019 18:36:08 GMT -6
Valid response too. Now I am getting a mind funk on what I am going to do. Cripes.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 19, 2019 19:05:46 GMT -6
In my thickest area of buckthorn there is zero deer movement. Trails go around it, not through
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Post by batman on Nov 19, 2019 19:08:37 GMT -6
In my thickest area of buckthorn there is zero deer movement. Trails go around it, not through Be a cool spot to blaze couple trails and bedrooms.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 19, 2019 19:10:09 GMT -6
In my thickest area of buckthorn there is zero deer movement. Trails go around it, not through Be a cool spot to blaze couple trails and bedrooms. Yep, once it fills in with the hazelbrush and gray dogwood that should be growing there
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Post by batman on Nov 19, 2019 19:12:43 GMT -6
Be a cool spot to blaze couple trails and bedrooms. Yep, once it fills in with the hazelbrush and gray dogwood that should be growing there Stubborn. It’s admirable.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 19, 2019 19:20:34 GMT -6
Yep, once it fills in with the hazelbrush and gray dogwood that should be growing there Stubborn. It’s admirable. You're not going to convince me that not dealing with the most invasive plant on my property is a good idea. I've got bedding uphill from the buckthorn epicenter. It's working well. I am convinced that buckthorn roots and/or leaves are allelopathic. This thick buckthorn area butts up to a foodplot, and along the edges where the buckthorn is growing I can't get shit to grow. It isn't dense shade either. Get 10-12' away from the stuff and I can grow anything I want. There's conflicting reports out there about buckthorn and allelopathy, but there's something going on. If I remove the buckthorn and suddenly my plot fills in along the edges, I'll have all the proof I need.
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Post by batman on Nov 19, 2019 19:24:57 GMT -6
Stubborn. It’s admirable. You're not going to convince me that not dealing with the most invasive plant on my property is a good idea. I've got bedding uphill from the buckthorn epicenter. It's working well. I am convinced that buckthorn roots and/or leaves are allelopathic. This thick buckthorn area butts up to a foodplot, and along the edges where the buckthorn is growing I can't get shit to grow. It isn't dense shade either. Get 10-12' away from the stuff and I can grow anything I want. There's conflicting reports out there about buckthorn and allelopathy, but there's something going on. If I remove the buckthorn and suddenly my plot fills in along the edges, I'll have all the proof I need. That’s an angle on buckthorn I could bite on. I really hope you are wrong. I hsve Scattered patches everywhere. Going to look at aleo.
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Post by biglakebass on Nov 19, 2019 19:25:10 GMT -6
Stubborn. It’s admirable. You're not going to convince me that not dealing with the most invasive plant on my property is a good idea. I've got bedding uphill from the buckthorn epicenter. It's working well. I am convinced that buckthorn roots and/or leaves are allelopathic. This thick buckthorn area butts up to a foodplot, and along the edges where the buckthorn is growing I can't get shit to grow. It isn't dense shade either. Get 10-12' away from the stuff and I can grow anything I want. There's conflicting reports out there about buckthorn and allelopathy, but there's something going on. If I remove the buckthorn and suddenly my plot fills in along the edges, I'll have all the proof I need. Down with buckthorn everywhere!!!!!!! My plan changes by the fucking minute. Cripes.
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 19, 2019 20:09:57 GMT -6
If you only have a few small patches, attack it.
If you have acres and acres, you better be young.
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Post by biglakebass on Nov 19, 2019 20:13:53 GMT -6
Oh we have many acres. 4 of us should make a dent this weekend.
Shit. I hope home depot has 2 gallon sprayers in stock!
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Post by smsmith on Nov 20, 2019 21:30:49 GMT -6
Finished up the first 6 gallons of diesel today. Went to town and filled up the can again. I don't think I'll need that much to finish up this year, but I'm sure I'll need to continue the battle next year. I also ordered another gallon of Crossbow, I've got enough left for about 2 gallons of spray. I'll probably use that up tomorrow if it doesn't rain. While spraying today I encountered shitloads of dead buckthorn from last winter's spraying. I'm winning
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Post by batman on Nov 21, 2019 6:51:56 GMT -6
You're not going to convince me that not dealing with the most invasive plant on my property is a good idea. I've got bedding uphill from the buckthorn epicenter. It's working well. I am convinced that buckthorn roots and/or leaves are allelopathic. This thick buckthorn area butts up to a foodplot, and along the edges where the buckthorn is growing I can't get shit to grow. It isn't dense shade either. Get 10-12' away from the stuff and I can grow anything I want. There's conflicting reports out there about buckthorn and allelopathy, but there's something going on. If I remove the buckthorn and suddenly my plot fills in along the edges, I'll have all the proof I need. That’s an angle on buckthorn I could bite on. I really hope you are wrong. I hsve Scattered patches everywhere. Going to look at aleo. I saw zero signs of the buckthorn choking growth, but its almost all growing in reed canary and other grasses which may be diff than plots.
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