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Post by badgerfowl on Nov 22, 2019 20:31:07 GMT -6
All tree rows are invasive. SD has it right. For the children^^^^^ I couldn’t help myself.  Prettiest swing I’ve ever seen. Huge Griffey fan growing up. We got him to wave at us at County Stadium. Pretty cool for 8 year olds. His home run that night went out of the park so damn fast. Just a rocket to right. |
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Post by Bwoods11 on Nov 22, 2019 20:32:24 GMT -6
Is this going to be a road screen or more for wildlife? Property line ... L shaped screen to prevent the neighbor from seeing what’s going down... on my land. |
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Post by sd51555 on Nov 22, 2019 21:13:16 GMT -6
I couldn’t help myself. Prettiest swing I’ve ever seen. Huge Griffey fan growing up. We got him to wave at us at County Stadium. Pretty cool for 8 year olds. His home run that night went out of the park so damn fast. Just a rocket to right. I got to see him and his dad play when I was a kid in Seattle. Kingdome? I can't remember what it was. I was a huge fan too for some reason. Still got his Topps rookie card. I bet it's worth double what I paid for that pack of cards. |
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Post by sd51555 on Nov 22, 2019 21:14:07 GMT -6
As much as it pains me to say...ironwood holds its leaves well into winter. At least those in full sun do. When they're understory trees not so much (maybe 50/50). You know, I admitted I was wrong about clover. You'll come around on ironwood yet. |
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Post by nitro27 on Nov 22, 2019 22:15:40 GMT -6
One of the best things I did was plant a road screen. Road hunters kept driving up and down the road scaring the deer from field. Favorite tree in the screen is a hybrid willow, grows fast, (15 feet tall in 5 years) keeps leaves on for a long time. Six row screen, black hills spruce, cottonwood, hybrid willow, plum, chokecherry, and nannyberry. |
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 23, 2019 1:09:45 GMT -6
One of the best things I did was plant a road screen. Road hunters kept driving up and down the road scaring the deer from field. Favorite tree in the screen is a hybrid willow, grows fast, (15 feet tall in 5 years) keeps leaves on for a long time. Six row screen, black hills spruce, cottonwood, hybrid willow, plum, chokecherry, and nannyberry. PopeYoung9/November Forever, the dude that got us kicked off HT used to say pay to have a dozer make a berm and then do your plantings. A 4’ berm would block most traffic from viewing a field alongside a road. The berms I’ve seen around here block the views well. Of course, he also said he put up a high fence on his border line to keep the deer from going to his neighbors and the complained that he had to shoot 70 deer a year to keep the population down. I like your combination though. |
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Post by wklman on Nov 23, 2019 1:17:57 GMT -6
I'd do a mix of red pine and Norway spruce. Red pine to get the party started and Norway to bring the evening to an end.
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 23, 2019 3:06:01 GMT -6
Is this going to be a road screen or more for wildlife? Property line ... L shaped screen to prevent the neighbor from seeing what’s going down... on my land. I like Wades idea and maybe add willows if wet or hybrid poplar for quick growth. Take the HP out in a few years. I wouldn’t plant anything the deer like to eat near the road or near the neighbors. No crabs, no oaks. |
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 23, 2019 5:12:01 GMT -6
Property line ... L shaped screen to prevent the neighbor from seeing what’s going down... on my land. I like Wades idea and maybe add willows if wet or hybrid poplar for quick growth. Take the HP out in a few years. I wouldn’t plant anything the deer like to eat near the road or near the neighbors. No crabs, no oaks. Yeah I wouldn’t plant any trees/shrubs that produce fruit and nuts near a road. |
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Post by Bwoods11 on Nov 23, 2019 7:02:29 GMT -6
Road Screens I’ve used a lot of Spruce, Cedar and Norway Pine. Cedar is excellent, but some do not like to see you plant it.   |
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 23, 2019 7:33:12 GMT -6
Road Screens I’ve used a lot of Spruce, Cedar and Norway Pine. Cedar is excellent, but some do not like to see you plant it. Great habitat in those pictures! |
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Post by smsmith on Nov 23, 2019 7:55:55 GMT -6
As much as it pains me to say...ironwood holds its leaves well into winter. At least those in full sun do. When they're understory trees not so much (maybe 50/50). You know, I admitted I was wrong about clover. You'll come around on ironwood yet. Drive down the N/S dirt road that is my eastern property line. Look at my place, then look at my north neighbor's place...you'll see why I hate ironwood. I have left pockets of young ironwood, I don't want to eradicate them. Grouse do eat the catkins in the winter and deer do browse the tops of young trees (as well as the tops I drop), but once they're 15-25' tall and thicker than the hair on a dog's back they serve a deer guy no good. My north neighbor's place has zero understory, even after a couple years of not grazing cattle. The ironwoods form a thick understory beneath the red and burr oaks. Very little else can get established. |
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Post by Bwoods11 on Nov 23, 2019 8:35:53 GMT -6
Stu— that is interesting on Ironwood!
Do you have many grouse??
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Post by smsmith on Nov 23, 2019 8:39:32 GMT -6
Stu— that is interesting on Ironwood! Do you have many grouse?? I wouldn't say "many"...but there's a huntable population. I'd feel comfortable shooting 2-3 birds a year if I hunted them. |
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Post by sd51555 on Nov 23, 2019 8:46:04 GMT -6
You know, I admitted I was wrong about clover. You'll come around on ironwood yet. Drive down the N/S dirt road that is my eastern property line. Look at my place, then look at my north neighbor's place...you'll see why I hate ironwood. I have left pockets of young ironwood, I don't want to eradicate them. Grouse do eat the catkins in the winter and deer do browse the tops of young trees (as well as the tops I drop), but once they're 15-25' tall and thicker than the hair on a dog's back they serve a deer guy no good. My north neighbor's place has zero understory, even after a couple years of not grazing cattle. The ironwoods form a thick understory beneath the red and burr oaks. Very little else can get established. We may have had a different type of ironwood where I grew up. It was in the woods, but it was never dominant. That was grazed decades ago, but you'd be hard pressed to find the posts and wire now. It was dominated by oak, ash, hackberry, basswood, elm, and boxelder. My dad recently bought half of that woods. I've bounced some ideas off him for how to recoup the outrageous price he paid for it, but nothing has stuck. We had a storm go through in 1997 that uprooted a lot of basswoods and put some sun on the forest floor. The deer moved to that spot. I wish he'd do something with it, but it's just not in the cards. |
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