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Post by Bwoods11 on Apr 3, 2020 9:23:14 GMT -6
There will be resorts going under if this extends into the summer. Some of the Canadian resorts must be 80-90% American clientele . If they shut the border down, it will be devastating for Canada. I am more worried about local businesses then anything in Canada.... Many of the resorts are owned by Americans, this will also have an impact on resorts in the US, if this doesn't slow down.
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Post by badbrad on Apr 3, 2020 9:27:50 GMT -6
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Post by nhmountains on Apr 3, 2020 9:33:56 GMT -6
Seems pretty clear that MN schools won't be re-opening next month. The schools here are closed for the year. The kids do remote but, my niece’s husband in CT says they can’t teach any new subject matter that hadn’t been taught before the virus. So they’re just rehashing the subject matter already taught this year with no knew information. Seems a waste.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 3, 2020 10:25:22 GMT -6
I am more worried about local businesses then anything in Canada.... Many of the resorts are owned by Americans, this will also have an impact on resorts in the US, if this doesn't slow down. I think it's safe to say that this will have an impact on resorts in the US and everywhere else at this point.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 3, 2020 10:36:46 GMT -6
There will be resorts going under if this extends into the summer. Some of the Canadian resorts must be 80-90% American clientele . If they shut the border down, it will be devastating for Canada. I am more worried about local businesses then anything in Canada.... Yup. I've heard a number of hospitality "experts" predicting that 50% or more of restaurants/bars/supper clubs/whatever will not re-open after this is done. edit...I hadn't heard that Minneapolis closed public beaches and pools for the season. Just read an article stating that happened yesterday (day before maybe?). I wonder if that will happen statewide?
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Post by nhmountains on Apr 3, 2020 12:10:06 GMT -6
Here’s the numbers out of New York City so far.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Apr 3, 2020 13:39:54 GMT -6
That is an interesting read.. basically a Coronavirus patch! If that works, holy shit, things will change for the better.
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Post by badbrad on Apr 3, 2020 15:40:46 GMT -6
That is an interesting read.. basically a Coronavirus patch! If that works, holy shit, things will change for the better. Yeah but not anytime soon.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 3, 2020 15:44:05 GMT -6
None of the possible vaccines will be available anytime soon. It's doubtful they'll be ready for round 2 in the fall (if there is a round 2) either.
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Post by Freeborn on Apr 3, 2020 16:22:33 GMT -6
Not to be harsh but they can't close the country for months for 2% of the country who many are already near death. At some point vulnerable people need to self isolate and manage their risk.
At the end of 30 days NY and the rest of the country should be past its peak and decisions will have to be made. I don't know what that answer is but you can't shut down the country to the point where you do long term damage to many people for a small percentage of the country.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 3, 2020 16:27:22 GMT -6
Not to be harsh but they can't close the country for months for 2% of the country who many are already near death. At some point vulnerable people need to self isolate and manage their risk. At the end of 30 days NY and the rest of the country should be past its peak and decisions will have to be made. I don't know what that answer is but you can't shut down the country to the point where you do long term damage to many people for a small percentage of the country. At some point, people will start to rebel. It sounds like many in metropolitan areas around the country never followed the stay at home rule. I think many more will follow if this gets extended into May. I suppose that will depend largely on the death toll though.
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Post by Freeborn on Apr 3, 2020 16:40:14 GMT -6
Not to be harsh but they can't close the country for months for 2% of the country who many are already near death. At some point vulnerable people need to self isolate and manage their risk. At the end of 30 days NY and the rest of the country should be past its peak and decisions will have to be made. I don't know what that answer is but you can't shut down the country to the point where you do long term damage to many people for a small percentage of the country. At some point, people will start to rebel. It sounds like many in metropolitan areas around the country never followed the stay at home rule. I think many more will follow if this gets extended into May. I suppose that will depend largely on the death toll though. Everything I am reading is the death percentage is going to be much lower than originally forecasted. Particularly sense they are not testing near the percentage of people they should. Im thinking they will come up with a medication That mitigates the symptoms before they have a vaccine.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 3, 2020 16:52:19 GMT -6
At some point, people will start to rebel. It sounds like many in metropolitan areas around the country never followed the stay at home rule. I think many more will follow if this gets extended into May. I suppose that will depend largely on the death toll though. Everything I am reading is the death percentage is going to be much lower than originally forecasted. Particularly sense they are not testing near the percentage of people they should. Im thinking they will come up with a medication That mitigates the symptoms before they have a vaccine. I'm usually about as "pro-America" and "pro-capitalism" as possible....but I'm really disappointed with the lack of testing that is available in this country. Weeks ago, South Korea was testing close to 20,000 people daily. We have kits sitting in labs for weeks waiting to be tested. Without testing, we have zero idea of what we're really dealing with. We were told a couple weeks ago to not wear masks. Now, we're being told that wearing masks is probably a good idea. We as a country have dropped the ball on this one I fear. Why are people like Stephon Marbury and Robert Kraft flying to China and bringing back millions of masks? Fucking Vladimir Putin is sending us medical supplies. Not a stellar moment for the U.S. or capitalism.
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Post by batman on Apr 3, 2020 17:12:39 GMT -6
How is this a poor reflection upon capitalism?
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Post by nhmountains on Apr 3, 2020 17:15:13 GMT -6
Everything I am reading is the death percentage is going to be much lower than originally forecasted. Particularly sense they are not testing near the percentage of people they should. Im thinking they will come up with a medication That mitigates the symptoms before they have a vaccine. I'm usually about as "pro-America" and "pro-capitalism" as possible....but I'm really disappointed with the lack of testing that is available in this country. Weeks ago, South Korea was testing close to 20,000 people daily. We have kits sitting in labs for weeks waiting to be tested. Without testing, we have zero idea of what we're really dealing with. We were told a couple weeks ago to not wear masks. Now, we're being told that wearing masks is probably a good idea. We as a country have dropped the ball on this one I fear. Why are people like Stephon Marbury and Robert Kraft flying to China and bringing back millions of masks? Fucking Vladimir Putin is sending us medical supplies. Not a stellar moment for the U.S. or capitalism. 3M was selling the N95 masks to foreign nations for a higher profits. Others were hoarding them. My wife says they’re not testing people with the symptoms unless they’re admitted to a hospital so we’re only seeing a small portion of the people with the virus show up in the CDC numbers. Keep in mind there’s a risk of those people infecting large swaths of people and not know it. The numbers of deaths in New York have jumped up to over 2% of those with the confirmed with the virus. I’d like to see the numbers on what percentage of those people would’ve died within 6 months anyways. I think that’s a factor. I have seen that Italy said 50% would’ve died within 6 months regardless of the virus.
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