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Post by daydreamer on Apr 14, 2020 6:11:59 GMT -6
Wasn't it that he extended the Peacetime emergency order until May 13th? That's different than the shelter in place order from my understanding.
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Post by mnaaron on Apr 14, 2020 6:13:32 GMT -6
Wasn't it that he extended the Peacetime emergency order until May 13th? That's different than the shelter in place order from my understanding. ^^^ this is what I thought he extended as well.
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Post by chummer16 on Apr 14, 2020 6:16:02 GMT -6
My friend in bemidji just had a close 38 yr old friend who got Covid 19 perfect health no conditions and it damn near killed him. Had to induce a coma since he was coughing so hard. Was in ICU for three weeks and now needs a kidney replacement and then you hear about the elderly with tons of conditions which are barely sick...go figure. Messed up either way you look at it. I hope your friend does ok. In this time of fake news, you never know what to believe, but I read that xs use of ventilators is injuring the tissues and not the covid. The article said just oxygen should be used as much as possible on people. I also know that what works on 4 out of 5 cows would leave one cow where some other treatment is better. I assume the same is true for people and there have to be (thank goodness) different opinions between doctors. Perhaps that is why you are not hearing about ventilators anymore and states are willingly giving them up.
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 14, 2020 6:26:36 GMT -6
Wasn't it that he extended the Peacetime emergency order until May 13th? That's different than the shelter in place order from my understanding. You know what, now that you say that, I'm not sure. Here's the snip from his daily email. I really don't know now that you say that. It looks like it could be read both ways.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 14, 2020 6:50:15 GMT -6
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz has extended Minnesota's peacetime state of emergency for 30 days, until May 13.
He had declared the emergency one month ago, on March 13.
"The next stages of this pandemic are going to challenge us," the governor said in a press release. "An extension of Minnesota's peacetime emergency will allow us to protect Minnesotans' health and wellbeing and continue to respond effectively to this rapidly-evolving situation."
The extension will allow measures like the closure of schools, restaurants and bars; activation of the National Guard; regulatory changes; and the state's Stay at Home order to continue.
Seems clear that the May 13th date is an extension of what we've had in place all along
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Post by mnaaron on Apr 14, 2020 9:25:18 GMT -6
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Post by batman on Apr 14, 2020 10:44:04 GMT -6
Osterholm history: "170 million will die from bird flu" "World will end with Y2K" Fear monger extreme.
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Post by mnaaron on Apr 14, 2020 10:57:14 GMT -6
Really wow they were toting him and being right on the money with his predictions...where can a guy fact check this stuff.
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 14, 2020 10:59:38 GMT -6
Really wow they were toting him and being right on the money with his predictions...where can a guy fact check this stuff. We will be able to fact check in two years. I know we cannot shut businesses down for 16-18 months. Mistakes will also be made in any plan. I found it interesting that he says it is still popping up on China. Do any Chinese figures show that?
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Post by smsmith on Apr 14, 2020 11:02:44 GMT -6
I don't know if the modeling coming out of UM is from Osterholm, but if it is I find it hard to believe. UM is "predicting" 22k dead Minnesotans by August. Since the current death toll for all of the U.S. is around 23K (last I checked)...I don't see how it's remotely possible that MN will experience that kind of death toll.
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Post by benmnwi on Apr 14, 2020 11:33:21 GMT -6
There aren't even enough sick patients to keep all of the medical people employed full time. Pay cuts, furloughs, hiring freezes and possibly layoffs were mentioned at Mayo in the local paper a few days ago. I know all elective procedures are cancelled and that's a huge hit, but it seems like the expected surge is lower than anticipated. That's certainly a good thing, but at some point you have to wonder if it's time for everyone to get back to work if the hospitals have so many vacancies that they are laying people off.
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Post by chummer16 on Apr 14, 2020 11:41:07 GMT -6
Really wow they were toting him and being right on the money with his predictions...where can a guy fact check this stuff. We will be able to fact check in two years. I know we cannot shut businesses down for 16-18 months. Mistakes will also be made in any plan. I found it interesting that he says it is still popping up on China. Do any Chinese figures show that? China is saying all new cases are from people traveling back to China. I hate them more and more by the day. This is 100% their fault.
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Post by batman on Apr 14, 2020 11:42:18 GMT -6
There aren't even enough sick patients to keep all of the medical people employed full time. Pay cuts, furloughs, hiring freezes and possibly layoffs were mentioned at Mayo in the local paper a few days ago. I know all elective procedures are cancelled and that's a huge hit, but it seems like the expected surge is lower than anticipated. That's certainly a good thing, but at some point you have to wonder if it's time for everyone to get back to work if the hospitals have so many vacancies that they are laying people off. Getting a taste of socialized medicine.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Apr 14, 2020 11:54:35 GMT -6
There aren't even enough sick patients to keep all of the medical people employed full time. Pay cuts, furloughs, hiring freezes and possibly layoffs were mentioned at Mayo in the local paper a few days ago. I know all elective procedures are cancelled and that's a huge hit, but it seems like the expected surge is lower than anticipated. That's certainly a good thing, but at some point you have to wonder if it's time for everyone to get back to work if the hospitals have so many vacancies that they are laying people off. The local hospitals and clinics are laying off staff in my area, which has 0 cases, not one. No elective surgeries, and postponing everyone's screenings/appointments/checkups has cost my local hospital/clinic a 50% year over year revenue decrease. It is just plain stupid.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 14, 2020 11:58:34 GMT -6
There aren't even enough sick patients to keep all of the medical people employed full time. Pay cuts, furloughs, hiring freezes and possibly layoffs were mentioned at Mayo in the local paper a few days ago. I know all elective procedures are cancelled and that's a huge hit, but it seems like the expected surge is lower than anticipated. That's certainly a good thing, but at some point you have to wonder if it's time for everyone to get back to work if the hospitals have so many vacancies that they are laying people off. The local hospitals and clinics are laying off staff in my area, which has 0 cases, not one. No elective surgeries, and postponing everyone's screenings/appointments/checkups has cost my local hospital a 50% year over year revenue decrease. It is just plain stupid. ...and the small local hospitals are those that can least afford this loss. Those kinds of hospitals are closing all over rural America. A big part of why I chose this area was proximity to a local hospital and medical care.
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