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Post by mnaaron on Apr 14, 2020 12:04:51 GMT -6
Well I am glad to hear he over predicts because that was not the impression I got from the interview and the follow up questions which were not part of the podcast.
I heard the new China outbreak was along the northern end along the Russia border but man I have no idea what news station reported it and if it is legit. Can’t trust anyone anymore...
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Post by smsmith on Apr 14, 2020 12:14:13 GMT -6
Meanwhile, I don't understand why testing is so delayed. Wouldn't testing give us an idea of real death/infection rates? Make things much less scary? Allow people to get back into the workforce if testing can show that people have had the virus and recovered? This thing starts feeling more and more politically charged to me.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Apr 14, 2020 12:17:18 GMT -6
With the 15 minute tests, we should be able to figure out..1. Who can work 2. Who can fly on an airplane 3. Eventually be able to figure out safety of cruises, Disney parks, etc... or am I wrong?
Cost too high?
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Post by batman on Apr 14, 2020 12:27:09 GMT -6
With the 15 minute tests, we should be able to figure out..1. Who can work 2. Who can fly on an airplane 3. Eventually be able to figure out safety of cruises, Disney parks, etc... or am I wrong? Cost too high? Art talked how of corona infected cattle are immune - for a while.
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Post by benmnwi on Apr 14, 2020 12:33:15 GMT -6
There is a new article on Fox News that says the Wuhan lab was conducting coronavirus experiments on bats and it was determined to be very dangerous 2 years ago. If true, I doubt the Chinese will ever admit it.
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Post by mnaaron on Apr 14, 2020 12:34:44 GMT -6
With the 15 minute tests, we should be able to figure out..1. Who can work 2. Who can fly on an airplane 3. Eventually be able to figure out safety of cruises, Disney parks, etc... or am I wrong? Cost too high? Yeah I haven’t heard shit about the progress of quickly testing people. I think that is the key. I know our local food plant has some positive test and they are now testing every workers temp before going into the building. Rapid testing would be nice in this situation.
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 14, 2020 13:50:33 GMT -6
There is a new article on Fox News that says the Wuhan lab was conducting coronavirus experiments on bats and it was determined to be very dangerous 2 years ago. If true, I doubt the Chinese will ever admit it. We ain't exactly in a position to be throwing the first stone. We've got lots of things going on we don't really want to think about as well, like DARPA and Fort Collins. What the Chinese may be doing with bats, we've been doing with ticks, mosquitoes, cervids, canines, and more. What could go wrong?
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 14, 2020 14:14:10 GMT -6
With the 15 minute tests, we should be able to figure out..1. Who can work 2. Who can fly on an airplane 3. Eventually be able to figure out safety of cruises, Disney parks, etc... or am I wrong? Cost too high? Yeah I haven’t heard shit about the progress of quickly testing people. I think that is the key. I know our local food plant has some positive test and they are now testing every workers temp before going into the building. Rapid testing would be nice in this situation. We've got to skip by the testing all together, virus and antibodies both. There is no tally for how many healthy people have been killed by the virus. What we do know is we've counted every single person that has died the past 6 weeks as a 'rona gona. If we throw out say 90% of counted 'rona deaths because they had multiple other reasons to die in the next few days or weeks, our death toll would be at... 1 out of every 139,109 people. Skip the test. Let's get America going before we're all starving millionaires. (That's an inflation jab there)
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 14, 2020 15:36:35 GMT -6
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Post by wiscwhip on Apr 14, 2020 17:06:52 GMT -6
There aren't even enough sick patients to keep all of the medical people employed full time. Pay cuts, furloughs, hiring freezes and possibly layoffs were mentioned at Mayo in the local paper a few days ago. I know all elective procedures are cancelled and that's a huge hit, but it seems like the expected surge is lower than anticipated. That's certainly a good thing, but at some point you have to wonder if it's time for everyone to get back to work if the hospitals have so many vacancies that they are laying people off. The local hospitals and clinics are laying off staff in my area, which has 0 cases, not one. No elective surgeries, and postponing everyone's screenings/appointments/checkups has cost my local hospital/clinic a 50% year over year revenue decrease. It is just plain stupid. Oh, don't worry, they'll make that up and much more once this is over. You don't think for one minute that the costs of using your local medical facilities isn't going to skyrocket once they can sink their meathooks back into your wallet, do you? Everyone's going to need all their maintenance healthcare at once after we have moved on from COVID. Supply and demand will drive that pricing up. Those will be the new prices for those services, and folks will pay it and the market will be set for the future at that point. The price of medical costs will rise and will not go back down, they never really have in the past, and they won't start now.
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 14, 2020 17:55:15 GMT -6
The local hospitals and clinics are laying off staff in my area, which has 0 cases, not one. No elective surgeries, and postponing everyone's screenings/appointments/checkups has cost my local hospital/clinic a 50% year over year revenue decrease. It is just plain stupid. Oh, don't worry, they'll make that up and much more once this is over. You don't think for one minute that the costs of using your local medical facilities isn't going to skyrocket once they can sink their meathooks back into your wallet, do you? Everyone's going to need all their maintenance healthcare at once after we have moved on from COVID. Supply and demand will drive that pricing up. Those will be the new prices for those services, and folks will pay it and the market will be set for the future at that point. The price of medical costs will rise and will not go back down, they never really have in the past, and they won't start now. I was talking to In the know Bill about that today. His wife is an exec for one of our two systems here. They are already in clamp down mode to stem losses from empty beds. Short shifts, reduced days, mandatory use of vacation, prepping a draw on the endowments, etc. They're losing all the profitable stuff that pays for all the stuff that doesn't, like medicare and medicaid services.
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 15, 2020 5:40:48 GMT -6
The gov clarified his orders yesterday. Apparently, we weren't the only ones confused.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 15, 2020 6:32:33 GMT -6
The gov clarified his orders yesterday. Apparently, we weren't the only ones confused. So we don't have to stay at home, but there's still nowhere to go besides essential businesses?
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 15, 2020 6:45:45 GMT -6
The gov clarified his orders yesterday. Apparently, we weren't the only ones confused. So we don't have to stay at home, but there's still nowhere to go besides essential businesses? It's gonna be time to start looking for undiscovered and blooming wild shrubs and trees in a few weeks. The rona response can eat me. It's kinda nice that I've found some juneberry now, at least I can look at those to know when to look for more. Tons of chokecherry to be found as well.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 15, 2020 6:50:50 GMT -6
So we don't have to stay at home, but there's still nowhere to go besides essential businesses? It's gonna be time to start looking for undiscovered and blooming wild shrubs and trees in a few weeks. The rona response can eat me. It's kinda nice that I've found some juneberry now, at least I can look at those to know when to look for more. Tons of chokecherry to be found as well. I've been seeing plenty of SD, ND, and WI license plates when I'm out and about. I wouldn't worry about driving from SD to your place up north. Unless you're driving through the Cities anyway.
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