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Post by batman on Apr 17, 2020 10:39:36 GMT -6
I read The avg life expectancy in MN is 81 and average Covid death is in MN is 87.
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Post by kabic on Apr 17, 2020 13:50:54 GMT -6
Live stream of protest at MN governor's mansionn.
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Post by Freeborn on Apr 17, 2020 14:13:24 GMT -6
^Hopefully not all the protesters are nut jobs.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 17, 2020 16:11:54 GMT -6
I believe we are up to 6 positive cases at our facility, we have shut down 2 outreach clinics all elective surgeries and screening exams, as a front line employee Im pretty protected as far as my job goes but you never know. Our facility is not planning on returning to normalcy till September. Our Radiologist group, some of the highest paid doctors around just took out a loan from the SBA to cover their own payroll. Luckily we have a very fiscally responsible facility. I get frustrated with people who are in tons of debt, who may have lost a job or may yet loose a job spend frivolously what should be a life line to get them through. This is a nation changing event things will not go back to the way they were for a very long time if ever. its time for the strong to survive and the weak to perish, we as a nation just need to decide if that is the economy or people. Normalcy in September? That seems outlandish. How does the organization expect it and its employees to sustain? Mayo Rochester is starting operating again as are the hospitals in lax (not 100% of procedures). I don’t understand how people think we can just shut down and weather the storm, it’s just not feasible. NCAA football is trying to figure out if they start the season as usual, delay it and shorten the season, or start the season spring of 2021. NFL is talking about no fans for pre-season games, maybe no fans for the season, and possibly a shortened season. These billion dollar+ industries aren't losing money on purpose, they're doing what the medical people tell them is best practice. September seems crazy to me too, but it appears that is what the medical people are saying (as long as there isn't a round two anyway).
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Post by nhmountains on Apr 17, 2020 16:19:52 GMT -6
And yet with all the covid deaths the overall death total in the US is lower than the previous 3 years. It’s running 92-95% of normal. This data is February 1-April 11. it gives the age group breakdowns. www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/
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Post by daydreamer on Apr 17, 2020 16:56:03 GMT -6
And yet with all the covid deaths the overall death total in the US is lower than the previous 3 years. It’s running 92-95% of normal. This data is February 1-April 11. it gives the age group breakdowns. www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/What would the death rate total be if we hadn’t sheltered in place when we did? Hard to say...
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Post by buckvelvet on Apr 17, 2020 17:09:04 GMT -6
How you MN sobs like our MI laws? 🤦♂️🤷♂️
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 17, 2020 17:17:44 GMT -6
And yet with all the covid deaths the overall death total in the US is lower than the previous 3 years. It’s running 92-95% of normal. This data is February 1-April 11. it gives the age group breakdowns. www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/
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Post by Satchmo on Apr 17, 2020 17:24:58 GMT -6
How you MN sobs like our MI laws? 🤦♂️🤷♂️ You’re getting fuk’t.
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Post by nhmountains on Apr 17, 2020 17:33:22 GMT -6
And yet with all the covid deaths the overall death total in the US is lower than the previous 3 years. It’s running 92-95% of normal. This data is February 1-April 11. it gives the age group breakdowns. www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/What would the death rate total be if we hadn’t sheltered in place when we did? Hard to say... I have no idea. I’d still like to see a total of the at risk deaths vs non at risk. Looking at the cdc information I’d say under 40 people should not have much to worry about There’ll be more suicides due to virus though. 17,000,000 lost their jobs. Those numbers will play out later Stanford just completed a study and they say the infection may be already 50-80x what they thought which means the death rate would be a ton lower than the experts thought www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-antibody-testing-finds-bay-area-infections-85-times-higher-reported-researchers
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Post by buckvelvet on Apr 17, 2020 17:35:24 GMT -6
How you MN sobs like our MI laws? 🤦♂️🤷♂️ You’re getting fuk’t. Amen brother....🇺🇸
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Post by smsmith on Apr 17, 2020 18:09:25 GMT -6
I'd say looking at any numbers from any sources right now is an exercise in futility. We have zero meaningless data thanks to the lack of testing. I saw an article showing the number of people who have anti-bodies in the S.F. Bay area was far above what anybody had thought. It would indicate a lot of people have been exposed and have had zero-moderate symptoms. Without a lot more testing, we don't know shit. Why the richest and most industrious nation in the world can't get tests for the masses fast tracked is beyond me.
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Post by kl9 on Apr 17, 2020 18:12:10 GMT -6
Normalcy in September? That seems outlandish. How does the organization expect it and its employees to sustain? Mayo Rochester is starting operating again as are the hospitals in lax (not 100% of procedures). I don’t understand how people think we can just shut down and weather the storm, it’s just not feasible. NCAA football is trying to figure out if they start the season as usual, delay it and shorten the season, or start the season spring of 2021. NFL is talking about no fans for pre-season games, maybe no fans for the season, and possibly a shortened season. These billion dollar+ industries aren't losing money on purpose, they're doing what the medical people tell them is best practice. September seems crazy to me too, but it appears that is what the medical people are saying (as long as there isn't a round two anyway). I’m aware of that. And I’m sure that is what is best from a medical standpoint. But there is more to the discussion than that.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 17, 2020 18:17:04 GMT -6
NCAA football is trying to figure out if they start the season as usual, delay it and shorten the season, or start the season spring of 2021. NFL is talking about no fans for pre-season games, maybe no fans for the season, and possibly a shortened season. These billion dollar+ industries aren't losing money on purpose, they're doing what the medical people tell them is best practice. September seems crazy to me too, but it appears that is what the medical people are saying (as long as there isn't a round two anyway). I’m aware of that. And I’m sure that is what is best from a medical standpoint. But there is more to the discussion than that. Yep, what's more important...our lives or our economy. The "answer" will vary widely. No organization/business/whatever wants to be on record for valuing dollars more than lives right now. That will likely change relatively soon. It may change again when the lawsuits start piling up in the future. I don't know the answers, wish I did.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Apr 17, 2020 18:18:39 GMT -6
My kid said his unemployment raise has him making 55k while it lasts.? Some of the workers at the GC had their $250/week unemployment raised to over $800 they said, is that possible?
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