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Post by badgerfowl on Apr 17, 2020 19:29:14 GMT -6
My kid said his unemployment raise has him making 55k while it lasts.? Some of the workers at the GC had their $250/week unemployment raised to over $800 they said, is that possible? I thought I saw $600/week more for awhile. People making more on unemployment than actual work. Just what the dems want.
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Post by batman on Apr 17, 2020 19:30:43 GMT -6
My kid said his unemployment raise has him making 55k while it lasts.? Some of the workers at the GC had their $250/week unemployment raised to over $800 they said, is that possible? Even my kid said it was fucked up. But it is true. Guess who pays for that?
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Post by Catscratch on Apr 17, 2020 19:31:10 GMT -6
I'd say looking at any numbers from any sources right now is an exercise in futility. We have zero meaningless data thanks to the lack of testing. I saw an article showing the number of people who have anti-bodies in the S.F. Bay area was far above what anybody had thought. It would indicate a lot of people have been exposed and have had zero-moderate symptoms. Without a lot more testing, we don't know shit. Why the richest and most industrious nation in the world can't get tests for the masses fast tracked is beyond me. The numbers can't be anywhere near correct in either direction. Lack of testing, lack of clear cause of death (was it the virus or was it the stage 4 cancer), the manipulation by the media, etc. It's hard for a numbers guy to follow. The one number I've been following pretty close is the deaths per million. I think its at 112 for the USA at the moment. If it follows the trend it will be around to 115 or 120 tomorrow. The CDC says the deaths per million in the US last year was 2 per 10,000... or 20 per million. Spain is at 428, Belgium is at 445, etc. Suicides will go way up, domestic violence will go way up, armed robbery and subsequent deaths will go up, overdoses will go way up, etc. Being broke is hard on people.
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Post by Foggy on Apr 17, 2020 20:19:39 GMT -6
My step mother in-laws daughter is furloughed in Minneapolis as is her whole department. At our local hospital they’ve shut down all of the departments other than covid and emergency because there’s no patients coming in. Maybe Lee is still seeing them but, that’s not what I’m being told or hear about. I believe we are up to 6 positive cases at our facility, we have shut down 2 outreach clinics all elective surgeries and screening exams, as a front line employee Im pretty protected as far as my job goes but you never know. Our facility is not planning on returning to normalcy till September. Our Radiologist group, some of the highest paid doctors around just took out a loan from the SBA to cover their own payroll. Luckily we have a very fiscally responsible facility. I get frustrated with people who are in tons of debt, who may have lost a job or may yet loose a job spend frivolously what should be a life line to get them through. This is a nation changing event things will not go back to the way they were for a very long time if ever. its time for the strong to survive and the weak to perish, we as a nation just need to decide if that is the economy or people. I dont want to wish "ill" on the medical community. Not my intent here.....and I dont mean to offend. Still.... Gotta say that as a whole....the medical community have been pretty isolated from the economic storms that many of us have felt over the past decades. Many of the manufacturing community (and many other areas) have taken huge hits and cuts to get to where we are. Said it was the new norm. Maybe this too is the new norm? Much of what goes on in the medical centers today is fluff and tuff......at least compared to times gone by. Some huge salaries are getting trimmed for sure. Not sure how needed plastic surgery is necessary or how many MRI's are needed (for example). (I'm sure all of what I have said can be taken out of context....and is debatable.......but I also feel it needs to be said.).
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 18, 2020 7:29:20 GMT -6
I'd say looking at any numbers from any sources right now is an exercise in futility. We have zero meaningless data thanks to the lack of testing. I saw an article showing the number of people who have anti-bodies in the S.F. Bay area was far above what anybody had thought. It would indicate a lot of people have been exposed and have had zero-moderate symptoms. Without a lot more testing, we don't know shit. Why the richest and most industrious nation in the world can't get tests for the masses fast tracked is beyond me. The numbers can't be anywhere near correct in either direction. Lack of testing, lack of clear cause of death (was it the virus or was it the stage 4 cancer), the manipulation by the media, etc. It's hard for a numbers guy to follow. The one number I've been following pretty close is the deaths per million. I think its at 112 for the USA at the moment. If it follows the trend it will be around to 115 or 120 tomorrow. The CDC says the deaths per million in the US last year was 2 per 10,000... or 20 per million. Spain is at 428, Belgium is at 445, etc. Suicides will go way up, domestic violence will go way up, armed robbery and subsequent deaths will go up, overdoses will go way up, etc. Being broke is hard on people. I wonder how many early detection of cancers are being missed because of the shutdown. Colonoscopies being delayed? I have an early June appointment to look at some spots for skin cancer with a specialist. I hope they don’t cancel, there was a 2 month wait to get in before the shutdown. I imagine my regular doctor could have put a rush on it if necessary.
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Post by Catscratch on Apr 18, 2020 7:51:47 GMT -6
The numbers can't be anywhere near correct in either direction. Lack of testing, lack of clear cause of death (was it the virus or was it the stage 4 cancer), the manipulation by the media, etc. It's hard for a numbers guy to follow. The one number I've been following pretty close is the deaths per million. I think its at 112 for the USA at the moment. If it follows the trend it will be around to 115 or 120 tomorrow. The CDC says the deaths per million in the US last year was 2 per 10,000... or 20 per million. Spain is at 428, Belgium is at 445, etc. Suicides will go way up, domestic violence will go way up, armed robbery and subsequent deaths will go up, overdoses will go way up, etc. Being broke is hard on people. I wonder how many early detection of cancers are being missed because of the shutdown. Colonoscopies being delayed? I have an early June appointment to look at some spots for skin cancer with a specialist. I hope they don’t cancel, there was a 2 month wait to get in before the shutdown. I imagine my regular doctor could have put a rush on it if necessary. I hope you still get those spots checked out Sandbur. I go in yearly for a full body skin screening... my skin doctor is smokin hot so that helps me keep my appointments. We've had 1 positive test in our county, and 1 death (we are sitting at 100% death rate if someone felt like publicizing numbers in the media). I've communicated with some people I know in the medical fields. People are avoiding the hospital like the plague (pun intended). Like you said, I'm sure that a ton of early detections will be missed. I fear this will reflect in our death rates and health costs for years to come. Lots of health professionals are being laid off and finding jobs in other states due to the slowdown. Hate to think we will be understaffed when we need them most.
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Post by batman on Apr 18, 2020 8:19:08 GMT -6
Yesterday MN 'News' conference has some snowflake nurse crying as part of the broadcast. She likely bases her rhetoric in fact and reason.
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 18, 2020 15:39:28 GMT -6
Yesterday MN 'News' conference has some snowflake nurse crying as part of the broadcast. She likely bases her rhetoric in fact and reason. Crying because no work or because she is overworked?
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 18, 2020 15:40:33 GMT -6
I wonder how many early detection of cancers are being missed because of the shutdown. Colonoscopies being delayed? I have an early June appointment to look at some spots for skin cancer with a specialist. I hope they don’t cancel, there was a 2 month wait to get in before the shutdown. I imagine my regular doctor could have put a rush on it if necessary. I hope you still get those spots checked out Sandbur. I go in yearly for a full body skin screening... my skin doctor is smokin hot so that helps me keep my appointments. We've had 1 positive test in our county, and 1 death (we are sitting at 100% death rate if someone felt like publicizing numbers in the media). I've communicated with some people I know in the medical fields. People are avoiding the hospital like the plague (pun intended). Like you said, I'm sure that a ton of early detections will be missed. I fear this will reflect in our death rates and health costs for years to come. Lots of health professionals are being laid off and finding jobs in other states due to the slowdown. Hate to think we will be understaffed when we need them most. I think that full body screening is what my regular doctor wanted. It isn’t at the hospital.
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Post by Catscratch on Apr 18, 2020 16:00:19 GMT -6
I hope you still get those spots checked out Sandbur. I go in yearly for a full body skin screening... my skin doctor is smokin hot so that helps me keep my appointments. We've had 1 positive test in our county, and 1 death (we are sitting at 100% death rate if someone felt like publicizing numbers in the media). I've communicated with some people I know in the medical fields. People are avoiding the hospital like the plague (pun intended). Like you said, I'm sure that a ton of early detections will be missed. I fear this will reflect in our death rates and health costs for years to come. Lots of health professionals are being laid off and finding jobs in other states due to the slowdown. Hate to think we will be understaffed when we need them most. I think that full body screening is what my regular doctor wanted. It isn’t at the hospital. It's awesome sandbur. This cute little chick has you undress down to your skibbies then she puts a glove on and rubs all over you while talking about how much you workout and stuff. If her office happens to have a nice leather couch instead of an examination table just go with it and take control of the situation. My favorite visit was when she had the younger intern with her to learn some things.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 18, 2020 16:08:09 GMT -6
I think that full body screening is what my regular doctor wanted. It isn’t at the hospital. It's awesome sandbur. This cute little chick has you undress down to your skibbies then she puts a glove on and rubs all over you while talking about how much you workout and stuff. If her office happens to have a nice leather couch instead of an examination table just go with it and take control of the situation. My favorite visit was when she had the younger intern with her to learn some things. Yep, I used to be able to get evaluated by a dermatologist (though not a hot one like yours). Around here, I would pretty much need to have a new 1/2" mole, bleeding with irregularity, and abnormal margins to be able to be seen by a dermatologist.
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Post by Catscratch on Apr 18, 2020 16:13:52 GMT -6
It's awesome sandbur. This cute little chick has you undress down to your skibbies then she puts a glove on and rubs all over you while talking about how much you workout and stuff. If her office happens to have a nice leather couch instead of an examination table just go with it and take control of the situation. My favorite visit was when she had the younger intern with her to learn some things. Yep, I used to be able to get evaluated by a dermatologist (though not a hot one like yours). Around here, I would pretty much need to have a new 1/2" mole, bleeding with irregularity, and abnormal margins to be able to be seen by a dermatologist. I had a couple of moles removed once. I asked my doc to look at them and he said they looked fine but if I wanted removed and tested to tell him that they get caught on doors and stuff. So I told him they get caught on doors and stuff and they cut them out and did biopsies. Clean. I was happy.
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Post by nhmountains on Apr 18, 2020 17:01:20 GMT -6
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Post by nhmountains on Apr 18, 2020 17:09:23 GMT -6
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Post by Catscratch on Apr 18, 2020 17:21:11 GMT -6
So is the USA's big jump in deaths at 50-59, and Italy's at 60-69? It's no secret that Americans aren't all that healthy with diet and exercise. I can see how our bell curve for preexisting conditions would top out younger than other places.
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