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Post by nhmountains on Apr 18, 2020 17:49:34 GMT -6
So is the USA's big jump in deaths at 50-59, and Italy's at 60-69? It's no secret that Americans aren't all that healthy with diet and exercise. I can see how our bell curve for preexisting conditions would top out younger than other places. Yes or we’re playing with our numbers to attribute them to covid. Bottom line is 17,000,000 people have lost their jobs due to a disease that kills unhealthy people. If this news was on the mainstream media maybe it would inspire some of the overweight and out of shape people to lose weight and exercise.
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Post by batman on Apr 18, 2020 17:57:46 GMT -6
87 avg covid death age MN.
81 avg death age MN.
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Post by Catscratch on Apr 18, 2020 17:58:49 GMT -6
So is the USA's big jump in deaths at 50-59, and Italy's at 60-69? It's no secret that Americans aren't all that healthy with diet and exercise. I can see how our bell curve for preexisting conditions would top out younger than other places. Yes or we’re playing with our numbers to attribute them to covid. Bottom line is 17,000,000 people have lost their jobs due to a disease that kills unhealthy people. If this news was on the mainstream media maybe it would inspire some of the overweight and out of shape people to lose weight and exercise. Every person in this country already knows the consequences of obesity and sloth. Exercise and healthy diet are not part of our culture no matter what the risks are. I agree with you, but don't see Americans changing anytime soon. Try to count the endless celebrity diet fads, ab electrocuting things, pills, meds, etc that people will do over choosing the simple route.
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Post by mnaaron on Apr 18, 2020 18:23:22 GMT -6
Yes or we’re playing with our numbers to attribute them to covid. Bottom line is 17,000,000 people have lost their jobs due to a disease that kills unhealthy people. If this news was on the mainstream media maybe it would inspire some of the overweight and out of shape people to lose weight and exercise. Every person in this country already knows the consequences of obesity and sloth. Exercise and healthy diet are not part of our culture no matter what the risks are. I agree with you, but don't see Americans changing anytime soon. Try to count the endless celebrity diet fads, ab electrocuting things, pills, meds, etc that people will do over choosing the simple route. Sometimes you wonder if this isn’t a wake up call from the big guy upstairs to change our lifestyles
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Post by Catscratch on Apr 18, 2020 18:33:09 GMT -6
Every person in this country already knows the consequences of obesity and sloth. Exercise and healthy diet are not part of our culture no matter what the risks are. I agree with you, but don't see Americans changing anytime soon. Try to count the endless celebrity diet fads, ab electrocuting things, pills, meds, etc that people will do over choosing the simple route. Sometimes you wonder if this isn’t a wake up call from the big guy upstairs to change our lifestyles Eschatologies? You think enough people are listening, or is that the reason He's sending a message?
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 18, 2020 18:50:20 GMT -6
Ain't public land no mo.
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Post by batman on Apr 18, 2020 19:15:03 GMT -6
Thats fucking awesome. Fuck California.
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Post by mnaaron on Apr 18, 2020 19:45:21 GMT -6
Sometimes you wonder if this isn’t a wake up call from the big guy upstairs to change our lifestyles Eschatologies? You think enough people are listening, or is that the reason He's sending a message? So many people are extremely selfish and could give two shits how their behavior effects others. All about me and screw my fellow man.
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 19, 2020 5:05:45 GMT -6
Have you seen any numbers on NYC weekly or monthly death rate before and after covid?
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Post by chummer16 on Apr 19, 2020 6:03:41 GMT -6
The numbers can't be anywhere near correct in either direction. Lack of testing, lack of clear cause of death (was it the virus or was it the stage 4 cancer), the manipulation by the media, etc. It's hard for a numbers guy to follow. The one number I've been following pretty close is the deaths per million. I think its at 112 for the USA at the moment. If it follows the trend it will be around to 115 or 120 tomorrow. The CDC says the deaths per million in the US last year was 2 per 10,000... or 20 per million. Spain is at 428, Belgium is at 445, etc. Suicides will go way up, domestic violence will go way up, armed robbery and subsequent deaths will go up, overdoses will go way up, etc. Being broke is hard on people. I wonder how many early detection of cancers are being missed because of the shutdown. Colonoscopies being delayed? I have an early June appointment to look at some spots for skin cancer with a specialist. I hope they don’t cancel, there was a 2 month wait to get in before the shutdown. I imagine my regular doctor could have put a rush on it if necessary. I think I posted this before but this is my fear for my parents. They are very hard to get to go to the doctor but I do get them to go for physicals. Last year they found skin cancer on my mom. This year my dad has been complaining of stomach pains for a while but wouldn’t go because his physical was coming up. It has been cancelled so who know what he has going on. Early detection is very important. All our doctors are closed while we wait for the wave that never came.
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Post by nhmountains on Apr 19, 2020 6:12:06 GMT -6
Have you seen any numbers on NYC weekly or monthly death rate before and after covid? I’ve seen them but, can’t put my finger on them now. I believe this disease is speeding up the time table for at risk people by about 6 months to a year meaning most people that are dying now would be dead down the road in 6-12 months regardless of the disease. There was a study in Italy that said 90% would’ve been dead within 6 months. At risk people are at risk regardless of this disease. I want to remind people that so far this year that 12.7 million babies have been aborted so the libs that go after Trump for one Covid death do have that blood on their hands.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 19, 2020 9:18:49 GMT -6
I think things are about to get pretty ugly. Small businesses are going to re-open whether the government likes it or not.
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Post by Foggy on Apr 19, 2020 10:12:42 GMT -6
The government keeps talking about spending more and making more LOANS available to small biz. What small biz does NOT (generally) need is more LOAN money. They generally lack enough EQUItY to make it. Loans need to be paid back......duh. Without income and PROFITS.....how you gonna replay a loan? High finance ruins too many small business'........IMO.
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Post by kooch on Apr 19, 2020 10:19:58 GMT -6
My entire adult life, I've been told it makes more sense to invest in the market in lieu of paying off the mortgage. A paid off house would be a real comfort right now. Even though we've got plenty saved to last a good long time if we needed, there's something about the mortgage that feels heavy. There's no way I'd withdraw from savings to pay it off in one swoop. But it sure would feel good. Five years left.
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Post by benmnwi on Apr 19, 2020 10:52:18 GMT -6
The government keeps talking about spending more and making more LOANS available to small biz. What small biz does NOT (generally) need is more LOAN money. They generally lack enough EQUItY to make it. Loans need to be paid back......duh. Without income and PROFITS.....how you gonna replay a loan? High finance ruins too many small business'........IMO. Some of these current small business loans become grants (free money) if you maintain your payroll numbers during the loan/grant time frame. If you take the money and lay everyone off then it's a loan that needs to be paid back.
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