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Post by sd51555 on Mar 7, 2017 7:52:05 GMT -6
Buried in the back of the ODN, there's an article on a push in congress to get the wolf delisting done before calving gets underway in the great lakes states. No word on the chances of it, or whether Paul Ryan even responded to getting it done quickly. But there's at least a few guys working on it, including MN's own Colin Peterson. So it's at least bipartisan in that sense, about 2% of the DFL in congress are behind it. I hope they just get it done so we can move on from this bullshit.
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Post by kl9 on Mar 7, 2017 8:13:35 GMT -6
Amen. Wolves don't really impact me but I feel for the folks that have them. That would suck... They need to be controlled.
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Post by Satchmo on Mar 7, 2017 8:43:50 GMT -6
Even Klobuchar is supporting it.
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Post by terrifictom on Mar 7, 2017 10:45:37 GMT -6
Even if the bill passes it will give little relief to Wisconsin and Minnesota as the limited hunting and trapping that will be allowed by the state plans are ridiculous.
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Post by kabic on Mar 7, 2017 11:03:35 GMT -6
Even Klobuchar is supporting it. Both of Wisconsin Senators are also supporting, one D one R. www.jsonline.com/story/news/2017/01/17/baldwin-johnson-back-bill-delist-wolf/96687794/Even if the bill passes it will give little relief to Wisconsin and Minnesota as the limited hunting and trapping that will be allowed by the state plans are ridiculous. One step at a time. First make it legal to hunt wolves and then we can work on increasing the amounts able to hunt. In Wisconsin I would be all for working towards the original goal of 350 wolves. I don't think they need to be wiped out but kept in check. |
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Post by sd51555 on Mar 7, 2017 11:27:49 GMT -6
If we can just wrestle control back from the courts we could work with the DNR on better management.
Ok, well maybe at least it won't mean prison time for the SSS guys.
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Post by terrifictom on Mar 7, 2017 12:52:24 GMT -6
Even Klobuchar is supporting it. Both of Wisconsin Senators are also supporting, one D one R. www.jsonline.com/story/news/2017/01/17/baldwin-johnson-back-bill-delist-wolf/96687794/Even if the bill passes it will give little relief to Wisconsin and Minnesota as the limited hunting and trapping that will be allowed by the state plans are ridiculous. One step at a time. First make it legal to hunt wolves and then we can work on increasing the amounts able to hunt. In Wisconsin I would be all for working towards the original goal of 350 wolves. I don't think they need to be wiped out but kept in check. If I am not mistaken that number of 350 has been changed to 750 to 850 in Wisconsin. So with the DNR's last estimate of 850 there would be no hunting or trapping season. |
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Post by wiscwhip on Mar 7, 2017 12:59:47 GMT -6
I'm thinking the new "private trailcam studies" that the DNR is asking folks to participate in will eventually show the 850 number to be a total lie.
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Post by kabic on Mar 7, 2017 14:07:00 GMT -6
If I am not mistaken that number of 350 has been changed to 750 to 850 in Wisconsin. So with the DNR's last estimate of 850 there would be no hunting or trapping season. They were working on a new Wolf plan when the Judge stopped state management. When that happened they stopped working on it. You may be right that they were going to increase the numbers, but I still believe the 350 would still be a valid minimum number (at least in my mind). |
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Post by Satchmo on Mar 7, 2017 16:39:06 GMT -6
Even if the bill passes it will give little relief to Wisconsin and Minnesota as the limited hunting and trapping that will be allowed by the state plans are ridiculous. You may be right on the relief from hunting, but it will give management back to the state, and thus to the trappers aligned with the State of MN to deal with problem animals. The State of Minnesota's trapping system allows the trappers to be proactive and take care of problem animals BEFORE they kill livestock. With a much larger state vs fed trapper network, they are also able to respond quicker and stay longer to deal with nuisance critters. I know some cattle ranchers that will be excited about that! |
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Post by Sandbur on Mar 7, 2017 19:14:37 GMT -6
Even if the bill passes it will give little relief to Wisconsin and Minnesota as the limited hunting and trapping that will be allowed by the state plans are ridiculous. You may be right on the relief from hunting, but it will give management back to the state, and thus to the trappers aligned with the State of MN to deal with problem animals. The State of Minnesota's trapping system allows the trappers to be proactive and take care of problem animals BEFORE they kill livestock. With a much larger state vs fed trapper network, they are also able to respond quicker and stay longer to deal with nuisance critters. I know some cattle ranchers that will be excited about that! One of my neighbors raises registered Angus and has the state approved certification. He helped remove some wolves before the last court ruling. |
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Post by westbranch on Mar 11, 2017 7:37:23 GMT -6
I ran into a congressman at a hotel breakfast area a couple years ago and talked to him for 20 mins about a couple different things. When it came to wolves he said that it was ok to do SSS. So legally I think I have been covered since then.
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Post by Sandbur on Mar 11, 2017 9:13:18 GMT -6
I ran into a congressman at a hotel breakfast area a couple years ago and talked to him for 20 mins about a couple different things. When it came to wolves he said that it was ok to do SSS. So legally I think I have been covered since then. Cattleman don't tolerate wolves in this area...... |
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Post by ogemaone on Mar 11, 2017 10:55:01 GMT -6
That's why I bought my AR and MB550's. plus good neighbors that think likewise.  |
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