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Post by Sandbur on Oct 14, 2020 4:29:07 GMT -6
Please, no specific examples on this thread.
I am old enough to remember the days when only weight of bucks or number of points counted. If you could hang a ring on them, you counted them. People said,’ Congratulations, that’s a nice buck’ or that’s a helluva nice buck. Kids drooled over any nice, heavy, or unusual deer.
This scoring has led to competition between hunters. Kind of sad in my view. There have been squabbles about which buck should be killed by other hunters and discussions about culling based on antlers.
If you ain’t happy with a buck, don’t shoot it. If you are, then shoot it.
I have been sucked into it, but it is time to just enjoy the hunt and move on.
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Post by Catscratch on Oct 14, 2020 4:38:31 GMT -6
My sentiments exactly. Sometimes I get asked if I'll let one of my boys shoot a certain buck, or if they have a target buck... my boys shoot whatever they want. My youngest shot a spike this yr and was happy as a lark!
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Post by Sandbur on Oct 14, 2020 5:30:32 GMT -6
My sentiments exactly. Sometimes I get asked if I'll let one of my boys shoot a certain buck, or if they have a target buck... my boys shoot whatever they want. My youngest shot a spike this yr and was happy as a lark! That is the way it should be and no one should criticize him.
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Post by Catscratch on Oct 14, 2020 5:42:48 GMT -6
Nobody criticizes the boys, but sometimes people act shocked or surprised that I "let" the boys shoot young deer. Everybody thinks that even the youngest hunters should be concerned about age and genetic potential. Kids deserve to evolve into whatever kind of hunter they want to be. They don't need me or someone one tv telling them what makes them happy about hunting.
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Post by Sandbur on Oct 14, 2020 6:16:36 GMT -6
Nobody criticizes the boys, but sometimes people act shocked or surprised that I "let" the boys shoot young deer. Everybody thinks that even the youngest hunters should be concerned about age and genetic potential. Kids deserve to evolve into whatever kind of hunter they want to be. They don't need me or someone one tv telling them what makes them happy about hunting. Genetic potential as defined by hunters is usually focused just on antlers. That is probably not what nature has selected for. Our concerns should be about quality venison, enjoying the hunt, and not ruining others hunts by criticizing them. It took me many years to figure this out and I slip back into that thinking at times.
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Post by batman on Oct 14, 2020 6:48:07 GMT -6
I like Big bucks. Men have always been fascinated by large antlers.
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Post by Catscratch on Oct 14, 2020 6:55:01 GMT -6
I like Big bucks. Men have always been fascinated by large Racks. Fixed it for you!
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Post by smsmith on Oct 14, 2020 7:03:33 GMT -6
I think the reason those old boys came up with the P&Y and B&C scoring systems was to eliminate some of the arguing about "whose is bigger". Of course, all that happened eventually was questioning the scoring systems. I think most arguments about scores could be ended pretty quickly with an official P&Y or B&C scoring sheet. I've seen score sheets from guys who aren't official scorers that look a bit sketchy. An official scorer isn't going to sign a sheet with B.S. measurements. If you don't believe in B&C or P&Y scores....then don't argue about scores...cuz scores wouldn't exist without P&Y and B&C. I don't give much credence to SCI, but if you do then go ahead and quote a SCI score.
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Post by Freeborn on Oct 14, 2020 7:04:53 GMT -6
Why can't we have both? If your ambition is to shoot high scoring bucks then focus on shooting high scoring bucks. If you want deer to eat then shoot what you want to eat.
I don't see on this forum or other forums the inferred intolerance the OP points to on this thread. Is there an occasional negative comment sure, but for the most part people keep there mouth shut.
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Post by Satchmo on Oct 14, 2020 8:10:02 GMT -6
Liquor don’t help the situation!
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Post by Sandbur on Oct 14, 2020 16:00:31 GMT -6
Why can't we have both? If your ambition is to shoot high scoring bucks then focus on shooting high scoring bucks. If you want deer to eat then shoot what you want to eat. I don't see on this forum or other forums the inferred intolerance the OP points to on this thread. Is there an occasional negative comment sure, but for the most part people keep there mouth shut. I was referring to comments I have heard from some hunters in my area.
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Post by Tooln on Oct 15, 2020 13:15:32 GMT -6
My favorite saying is "You can't eat the horns"
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Post by badgerfowl on Oct 15, 2020 13:17:19 GMT -6
My favorite saying is "You can't eat the horns" Nope, but you can look at them for a long time.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Oct 16, 2020 16:31:59 GMT -6
I enjoy the challenge of hunting a mature buck., if I want deer meat I shoot a doe. I like to see fish (I don’t keep 13 inch walleye)and deer get a chance to live longer than one or 2 or even 3 years. Nothing wrong with that !
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