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Post by biglakebass on Dec 12, 2020 10:18:55 GMT -6
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Post by smsmith on Dec 12, 2020 12:01:16 GMT -6
I can see this from both sides. I enjoy using trail cams and would miss getting the pics...but I can also understand how the use of trailcams gives an advantage. Is the advantage "unfair"? An argument can be made either way. |
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Post by wklman on Dec 12, 2020 13:36:32 GMT -6
I get banning them on public lands. People leave them out, forget where they are, multiple cams on water tanks, etc. The big money outfitters are killing this state and way of hunting. They'll get 10-20 guys out looking for a deer or elk, Find it, phone or radio where it's at, and then have the hunter come and shoot it. Ridiculous.
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Post by wklman on Dec 12, 2020 13:41:47 GMT -6
I can see this from both sides. I enjoy using trail cams and would miss getting the pics...but I can also understand how the use of trailcams gives an advantage. Is the advantage "unfair"? An argument can be made either way. It makes it way easier to kill a mountain lion. All an outfitter has to do is put a cell cam on a water hole, wait for a picture of a lion being there, cal his client, load the dogs up, and hit the fresh track. Done deal. Cams are a game changer for sure. |
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 13, 2020 10:03:33 GMT -6
I remember reading a discussion this fall about Minnesota’s rules for using electronic devices for deer hunting.
Discussions were about updating rules concerning cell cams.
It is currently illegal to text or call someone and tell them Deer are headed their way. It seems like Babe Winkleman got in trouble for this.
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Post by biglakebass on Dec 13, 2020 10:11:05 GMT -6
He got in trouble for walkie talkies.
That would be just wonderful. Just starting to buy cell cams and make them illegal. Cripes. Butttt,,,,, now that you point out the current technology items that are illegal. It does raise an eyebrow on me.
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 13, 2020 11:16:45 GMT -6
He got in trouble for walkie talkies. That would be just wonderful. Just starting to buy cell cams and make them illegal. Cripes. Butttt,,,,, now that you point out the current technology items that are illegal. It does raise an eyebrow on me. The discussion were not really about making them illegal, but were along the lines of them not being used/ downloaded on the day or two of hunting. I do feel a person should not be sitting in the house waiting for a cell phone picture and then running to a deer stand. It just is not fair chase to me. I remember reading a few years ago of hunters jumping across the line between Iowa and Missouri because cell cam pictures showed a buck coming out at a certain time on a different farm/ foodplot. Not my way of hunting. Too each his own. |
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Post by Catscratch on Dec 13, 2020 11:17:31 GMT -6
I would be fine with them being outlawed, but fine without them being outlawed. I gain more from scouting than trailcams so it wouldn't affect my hunting personally, but I do enjoy running trailcams and would miss the excitement of a card pull.
My understanding of waterholes in the desert is that cams are quite an issue. I have no experience to speak of that situation but I can see how it would possibly be a problem.
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Post by nhmountains on Dec 13, 2020 12:25:41 GMT -6
I remember reading a discussion this fall about Minnesota’s rules for using electronic devices for deer hunting. Discussions were about updating rules concerning cell cams. It is currently illegal to text or call someone and tell them Deer are headed their way. It seems like Babe Winkleman got in trouble for this. New Hampshire used to outlaw messages about deer while hunting with walkie talkies years ago but, I can find no reference to it or cellphone use. NH does ban hunting an area that uses cellular camera for a calendar day after the photos are sent. |
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Post by wklman on Dec 13, 2020 13:25:31 GMT -6
I would be fine with them being outlawed, but fine without them being outlawed. I gain more from scouting than trailcams so it wouldn't affect my hunting personally, but I do enjoy running trailcams and would miss the excitement of a card pull. My understanding of waterholes in the desert is that cams are quite an issue. I have no experience to speak of that situation but I can see how it would possibly be a problem. There'll be 10-20 cams on one pond at times. It's getting to the point where they have to do something about it. It's getting to where fair chase is going out the window. |
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Post by Catscratch on Dec 13, 2020 13:27:35 GMT -6
I would be fine with them being outlawed, but fine without them being outlawed. I gain more from scouting than trailcams so it wouldn't affect my hunting personally, but I do enjoy running trailcams and would miss the excitement of a card pull. My understanding of waterholes in the desert is that cams are quite an issue. I have no experience to speak of that situation but I can see how it would possibly be a problem. There'll be 10-20 cams on one pond at times. It's getting to the point where they have to do something about it. It's getting to where fair chase is going out there window. Is there so much pressure that animals are avoiding water? Is it affecting herd health? We have game harassment laws, I wonder if this could be tied to that somehow? |
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Post by wklman on Dec 13, 2020 13:47:42 GMT -6
There'll be 10-20 cams on one pond at times. It's getting to the point where they have to do something about it. It's getting to where fair chase is going out there window. Is there so much pressure that animals are avoiding water? Is it affecting herd health? We have game harassment laws, I wonder if this could be tied to that somehow? I'm sure it sends them nocturnal. I'm thinking it's also affecting other activities on public land like hiking, biking, logging, etc.. |
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