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Post by Sandbur on Jan 25, 2021 17:40:33 GMT -6
In some other thread, we were discussing using chain link fence for swamp crossings.
There is a short time in the morning of early spring when most of the snow is gone and the swamps are somewhat frozen. This seems to me like the perfect time to pull fence in on a 4 wheeler and roll it out.
For those areas where it is extremely wet, could you corduroy logs on top of the fence for additional support?
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Post by mnfish on Jan 25, 2021 18:00:46 GMT -6
A lot of my trails are done with old school corduroy techniques with a modern day material. We layed an 800' stretch 20 years ago and it still carries trucks across. I lay down the trees into the water/muck first then geotextile then soil. Replacing the geo with chain link would work just as well
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Post by chummer16 on Jan 25, 2021 18:09:42 GMT -6
I used chain link fence on 8-10 water crossings. I used the heavy duty plastic coated stuff. It came in 50’x5’ rolls. Some of the crossings I had to use 2 rolls. I got 12 rolls for $300 from a fence company. They said someone special ordered years ago and then never picked it up. It was coated in green plastic. I can’t imagine anything working better. I just put on my tall boots and rolled it out. I am selling the property most of it is on but I would live to pull out to use at camp. After a couple years you can’t even tell it is there.
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Post by kooch on Jan 25, 2021 18:17:48 GMT -6
How deep a swamp are we talking about here? I've got one area I've been scratching my head about. It's deep enough in the wet time that I have to dance through it even wearing my knee boots.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 25, 2021 18:40:27 GMT -6
A lot of my trails are done with old school corduroy techniques with a modern day material. We layed an 800' stretch 20 years ago and it still carries trucks across. I lay down the trees into the water/muck first then geotextile then soil. Replacing the geo with chain link would work just as well What type of tree was used?
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Post by mnfish on Jan 25, 2021 18:53:57 GMT -6
A lot of my trails are done with old school corduroy techniques with a modern day material. We layed an 800' stretch 20 years ago and it still carries trucks across. I lay down the trees into the water/muck first then geotextile then soil. Replacing the geo with chain link would work just as well What type of tree was used? Whatever was closest to the road. I was told in the absence of air those trees take a very long time to break down. Perpendicul to the road direction and packed tight. That is how I was taught. The chain link idea, as I understand it, uses the growth of grasses and such to stabilize the soil. If so, not sure corduroy would be the way to go.
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Post by mnfish on Jan 25, 2021 18:55:53 GMT -6
How deep a swamp are we talking about here? I've got one area I've been scratching my head about. It's deep enough in the wet time that I have to dance through it even wearing my knee boots. I've done it thru some pretty shitty very wet soil. Peat bog like material. And u could drive any vehicle across it...even after 20 years. That geotextile is amazing
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Post by leexrayshady on Jan 25, 2021 21:08:13 GMT -6
Fish did you tie the logs together before the textile and dirt?
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Post by mnfish on Jan 25, 2021 21:42:50 GMT -6
Fish did you tie the logs together before the textile and dirt? Im trying to find some of the pics I took. Remember film cameras cell phones weren't around. Gosh damn am I old!!! Logs as close together as possible. No tieing the logs together. Then filled the space with brush and dirt. Roll out the fabric over the corduroy and covered it with about 6" soil. Move along as the road is being built The soft/wetter soil was actually an advantage. Push the corduroy down which displaces the soil up in between the logs.
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Post by chummer16 on Jan 26, 2021 7:04:22 GMT -6
Some of my crossings are up to the top of the atv tires in the deepest part
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Post by sd51555 on Jan 26, 2021 7:32:22 GMT -6
Question for you chain link guys: Where you've done this, other than no longer sinking, does the ground perform the same in terms of vegetation? The big thing I'm trying to solve is not only for staying dry, but also staying quiet. This leads me to the need to raise up an earthen trail above the high water mark so there isn't vegetation and ice to bust through on foot.
My south side is almost always quiet given it's lower location and distance from any windy openings. That quiet part is big to be able to get back there.
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Post by biglakebass on Jan 26, 2021 9:08:57 GMT -6
You would never even know I have chainlink in the swamp. I run my swisher over it. Its all swamp grasses. The chainlink has been incorporated into the swamp completely.
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Post by chummer16 on Jan 26, 2021 15:20:01 GMT -6
Mine is also silent but I can’t help you with the ice. My most used ones are over moving water so no ice. I have never crossed one after ice but I can see where it would be loud if you are breaking through.
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