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Post by sd51555 on Feb 18, 2021 10:59:09 GMT -6
You got any idea? Keep in mind, I'm the lower land poorly drained soil type.
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Post by benmnwi on Feb 18, 2021 12:00:29 GMT -6
Do you have a picture? I'd guess red maple that far north, but along river/creek bottoms silver maples are possible.
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Post by smsmith on Feb 18, 2021 12:15:40 GMT -6
Do you have a picture? I'd guess red maple that far north, but along river/creek bottoms silver maples are possible. I'd guess red too. The only silvers I've seen around here are landscape specimens. I suppose there could be more of them further north. Sugar maples generally don't like wet ground |
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Post by Sandbur on Feb 18, 2021 12:21:30 GMT -6
You got any idea? Keep in mind, I'm the lower land poorly drained soil type. Up in our deer hunting zone, I have what I call reds. No silver maple. The red are just above the high water line. I am on well drained soil. They come in various fall leaf color, maybe sugars?  I still think red. |
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Post by sd51555 on Feb 18, 2021 12:22:53 GMT -6
I'm up to snuff on silver maples, I know they aren't that. If they're reds, should they have red leaves during the growing season?
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Post by sd51555 on Feb 18, 2021 12:23:45 GMT -6
Do you have a picture? I'd guess red maple that far north, but along river/creek bottoms silver maples are possible. Don't have any pics. |
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Post by smsmith on Feb 18, 2021 12:25:25 GMT -6
I'm up to snuff on silver maples, I know they aren't that. If they're reds, should they have red leaves during the growing season? Nope. Don't confuse native red maples with the purple/red leafed landscape maples. Red maples will have little red "blossoms" in very early spring, and many of the leaves will turn red in the fall. Red maples usually change color in the fall before the sugar maples. |
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Post by Sandbur on Feb 18, 2021 12:29:52 GMT -6
I'm up to snuff on silver maples, I know they aren't that. If they're reds, should they have red leaves during the growing season? Nope. Don't confuse native red maples with the purple/red leafed landscape maples. Red maples will have little red "blossoms" in very early spring, and many of the leaves will turn red in the fall. Red maples usually change color in the fall before the sugar maples. They have those red blossoms in the spring. |
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Post by benmnwi on Feb 18, 2021 12:30:06 GMT -6
Why are you interested in finding out what maple varieties you have?
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Post by sd51555 on Feb 18, 2021 12:33:07 GMT -6
Why are you interested in finding out what maple varieties you have? Curious if I have enough to run a sugarbush someday. It won't happen anytime soon, but if I can make sure those core trees grow for the next 5-10 years, that may help the cause, and give a guy something to do as winter goes out. |
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Post by sd51555 on Feb 18, 2021 12:36:39 GMT -6
Working on a solar powered reverse osmosis filtration system with a wind powered vacuum pump hooked directly to my trees. I'll filter it down to 7to 1 pre-cook and discharge the maple water into my fish pond.
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Post by smsmith on Feb 18, 2021 12:40:54 GMT -6
Why are you interested in finding out what maple varieties you have? Curious if I have enough to run a sugarbush someday. It won't happen anytime soon, but if I can make sure those core trees grow for the next 5-10 years, that may help the cause, and give a guy something to do as winter goes out. On low ground you may want to consider some of the high sugar tissue culture silver maples from SLN. I don't think sugar maples will do that well on your place, but I could be wrong. Red maples can be tapped, but they are pretty low in sugar content from my understanding. I'm planting some regular silver maples in my creek bottom this spring. Mainly to see if they can shade out RCG. |
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Post by benmnwi on Feb 18, 2021 12:41:40 GMT -6
Any type of maples will work for making syrup, but some just have a higher sugar % than others. Your sap output increases dramatically if you can kill competing vegetation.
Your solar powered, vacuum pump reverse osmosis wind powered filtration system is one option or you could just collect sap in buckets and drink beer all weekend while it slowly boils over an open fire.
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Post by benmnwi on Feb 18, 2021 12:45:54 GMT -6
I tap the 6 silver maple trees in my yard and usually end up with 3-4 gallons of finished syrup per year. I'm lucky that these silver maples have really high sugar %.
I see lots of guys tapping red maples by my cabin, so it would certainly be worth a shot.
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Post by nhmountains on Feb 18, 2021 23:55:48 GMT -6
SD, Red maples can still produce a lot of syrup. The issue is it takes more sap to make a gallon but, even then some red maples will produce more sugar than hard/sugar maples depending on the tree. Trees vary on sap production from year to year and even tree to tree. I have very few hard/sugar maples on my land but, the syrup guy on the other side of the mountain has a 50/50 ratio. He taps both. Here, on average, a mature tree will average 1/4 gallon of finished syrup if tapped for the whole season. Larger trees may produce 2-3 times that. So I’d figure 20-25 gallons per 100 taps. $60 gallon for finished product less bottling costs. You’d be better to search out a local producer up there. Tap the trees and sell/trade the raw sap for them then investing in the cost of a full setup. Hopefully that’s what I’ll be doing in 5 years during February and March along with pruning. Here’s an old Minnesota maple study. employees.csbsju.edu/ssaupe/CV/conger_final_report.pdf |
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