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Post by Tooln on Apr 7, 2021 6:43:02 GMT -6
To small of a job, when you consider load, unload and travel time. Unless you can find someone doing work in the area cost will be high. Rent yourself some Eq. and do it yourself.
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 7, 2021 6:47:31 GMT -6
I always hated those small jobs when working with cattle, hogs, or especially goats. Drive time was the same and most often things weren’t set up to get the job done.
The guy with three head to process would take as long as the guy with 30 head.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Apr 7, 2021 7:32:00 GMT -6
This guy that quoted it just started in the business last year. I think he just miscalculated the time needed . I have another option, or I’ll change the focus of the plot...
Could be a great spot for new hybrid oaks! Clover with a with a few hybrids mixed in the best areas for sunlight.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 7, 2021 7:36:05 GMT -6
Maybe I'm missing something, but from what I'm seeing a few hours with a chainsaw would have that plot opened up. Leave the stumps where they are, spray them with diesel/crossbow so they don't sprout. No till your clover mix and you're good to go. Looks like an atv already has access to the plot.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Apr 7, 2021 8:30:11 GMT -6
Maybe I'm missing something, but from what I'm seeing a few hours with a chainsaw would have that plot opened up. Leave the stumps where they are, spray them with diesel/crossbow so they don't sprout. No till your clover mix and you're good to go. Looks like an atv already has access to the plot. Yep you are right, my focus was to expand it a few feet, with some stump removal, and a nice access trail. It will all work out. I am not a tightwad either, I will pay for the work, but $3800 is too high. I could buy an acre of land for that.
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Post by biglakebass on Apr 7, 2021 8:55:02 GMT -6
what property
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Post by Bwoods11 on Apr 7, 2021 9:09:44 GMT -6
This is @ Swift Falls/Swift County
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Post by biglakebass on Apr 7, 2021 9:46:56 GMT -6
Bummer.... I had a thought maybe my Dad would be interested if it was Parkers. He does amazing shit in a bobcat.
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Post by benmnwi on Apr 7, 2021 11:32:50 GMT -6
In my experience it seems like $1000/day is the price for a day's worth of work with guy and a bulldozer or excavator (assume 6 hours of work plus an hour for loading and an hour for unloading equipment). I don't see 3 days worth of work there, but I could certainly see it taking longer than a day since things always seem to take longer than I think. Sometimes those flush cut stumps can be a pain in the butt for them to pop out with a small bulldozer since there isn't much leverage, so maybe he was thinking those will take quite a bit of time.
In that case I think you might be better off seeing if he would do it on a per hour rate while you were there. I think he could pretty quickly get through all the easy stuff and the price wouldn't be too bad. Then if some of the other stuff takes too much time you could have him skip that stuff. I'd also recommend being there for the entire operation or it is very likely something will get screwed up. That's how I ended up with a 75 year old apple tree getting bulldozed to the ground when the idiot showed up early and started dozer work before I was there to supervise.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Apr 7, 2021 12:53:01 GMT -6
I remember the apple tree getting dozed! Damn that sucks
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Post by Freeborn on Apr 7, 2021 13:19:29 GMT -6
Bummer.... I had a thought maybe my Dad would be interested if it was Parkers. He does amazing shit in a bobcat. Hey Mark, I have an area I want cleaned up and I can't get the dozer guy to show up because its to small. Its a mess of old blow-down and twisted regrowth. It borders a marsh so your dad can shove the wood into the marsh or if he wants the wood he can have it. Its near the entrance to my place so easy access. The wood is mostly scrub-stuff. I'm trying to get does to have a feeding area on the east side of my property so the bucks have farther to travel to find them. I also have an enclosed stand now on that side near my camp that I like to use when I want to reduce hunting pressure. Total area is probably 1/3 acre (strip along the marsh) but its pretty thick mess. Most trees are not real large but a few are.
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Post by benmnwi on Apr 7, 2021 13:59:49 GMT -6
I remember the apple tree getting dozed! Damn that sucks I'm still pissed about losing that apple tree! Despite that, I still think heavy equipment is the best option for many projects if you need the areas to be stump free and flat.
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Post by biglakebass on Apr 7, 2021 14:19:02 GMT -6
Bummer.... I had a thought maybe my Dad would be interested if it was Parkers. He does amazing shit in a bobcat. Hey Mark, I have an area I want cleaned up and I can't get the dozer guy to show up because its to small. Its a mess of old blow-down and twisted regrowth. It borders a marsh so your dad can shove the wood into the marsh or if he wants the wood he can have it. Its near the entrance to my place so easy access. The wood is mostly scrub-stuff. I'm trying to get does to have a feeding area on the east side of my property so the bucks have farther to travel to find them. I also have an enclosed stand now on that side near my camp that I like to use when I want to reduce hunting pressure. Total area is probably 1/3 acre (strip along the marsh) but its pretty thick mess. Most trees are not real large but a few are. I can ask him if its something he would be interested in this weekend.
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Post by sd51555 on Apr 7, 2021 14:33:17 GMT -6
In my experience it seems like $1000/day is the price for a day's worth of work with guy and a bulldozer or excavator (assume 6 hours of work plus an hour for loading and an hour for unloading equipment). I don't see 3 days worth of work there, but I could certainly see it taking longer than a day since things always seem to take longer than I think. Sometimes those flush cut stumps can be a pain in the butt for them to pop out with a small bulldozer since there isn't much leverage, so maybe he was thinking those will take quite a bit of time. In that case I think you might be better off seeing if he would do it on a per hour rate while you were there. I think he could pretty quickly get through all the easy stuff and the price wouldn't be too bad. Then if some of the other stuff takes too much time you could have him skip that stuff. I'd also recommend being there for the entire operation or it is very likely something will get screwed up. That's how I ended up with a 75 year old apple tree getting bulldozed to the ground when the idiot showed up early and started dozer work before I was there to supervise. There's a big driver of my reasoning to chip away at bigger projects with smaller equipment. I don't even think the operators I'd hire could be bad people, it's more likely I'm a bad communicator. I find it just easier for me, at least on these 2-3 day projects to do them myself. I'm near certain it ends up costing more for the output, but those management concerns are alleviated. This year for example, I've got tons of little things that I'm going to fix when I've got the mini, and i'm probably going to get a skid steer for a day after two days with the mini. I've got individual stumps that are less than 3" on atv trails I want pulled. I've got pot holes on trails I want filled. I've got an old soil pile on a trail from a tree that probably uprooted 300 years ago that I want smoothed out. I've got random stumps in food plots I want dug and buried. I want to do something I think an otherwise sane person would advise against, and I don't want to hear any borax about it until I learn the hard way. I want to grade my trails where Dakota Peter piled up sod and dirt by spinning the skid steer. I've got deer trails I want to make with the mini, and I want them clean, smooth, and narrow on the first pass. I am holding open the idea to finish part of my excavator work with the big deal if and when that time comes. If I can't get it done in 3 days with the equipment I rent, I'm calling in the heavies to finish it.
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Post by chummer16 on Apr 7, 2021 15:02:00 GMT -6
A dozer is overkill for that job. Get a 12-18k lb mini and you can do it in one day easily. Or get a quote from a guy with a mini.
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