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Post by Catscratch on Jun 5, 2021 7:13:54 GMT -6
Getting a new pup. Wife said our kennel is too small. I won't win that argument. Don't particularly want to fence in a big chunk of yard.
You guys have any positives or negatives to wireless or invisible fences? I've never used one or installed one, just know they exist and some people seem to have dogs that won't leave the yard. I assume they can work.
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Post by smsmith on Jun 5, 2021 7:19:06 GMT -6
I put one in on my old place. Our rat terrier ran through it like the shock didn't even happen (it did, I tested it and it fucking hurt). I think the key is to have the fence in BEFORE the dog is on the property. I think breed of dog will also matter. Also...don't aerate your lawn once it's installed Edit...unless you use a trencher to make sure the wire is deep enough. Maybe there are wireless options now?
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Post by Tooln on Jun 5, 2021 8:09:26 GMT -6
A smart dog will work its way around it.
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Post by biglakebass on Jun 5, 2021 8:49:41 GMT -6
Petsafe is awesome
No way to walk around it.. it follows the collar. Stray to far it beeps. Stray further. Zappo
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Post by biglakebass on Jun 5, 2021 8:50:53 GMT -6
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Post by biglakebass on Jun 5, 2021 8:52:32 GMT -6
Only downside is batteries on the collar. Need to replace them every couple moths
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Post by caveman on Jun 5, 2021 12:40:12 GMT -6
Loved mine when I had my dogs. Make sure you aren't trying to fence too big of an area as it seems the signal only transfers well in so long of a wire.
In my dogs later years I am not sure how often the invisible fencing or collars (batteries) actually were operable. The dogs were well trained in a short time, and after a few reminders didn't test it.
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Post by Catscratch on Jun 5, 2021 13:10:10 GMT -6
Thanks for the input guys!
Just curious, but how does the dog know when it can leave the yard? Do you take the collar off and that's it's signal? I could see a dog figuring out it's boundaries and then not wanting to cross that line.
biglakebass - that unit doesn't require any buried wires or anything like that? Just plug it in and train them? I looked at the link you provided and it only talks about tone, no shock. Does it still work well without a shock?
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Post by chummer16 on Jun 5, 2021 14:21:41 GMT -6
There are videos on YouTube how to train your dog to stay in your yard unless told to do otherwise. No collar or wires needed. It is pretty cool. Our dog trainer has all his dogs trained that way. We have a fence so no need but it was cool to see his dogs.
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Post by biglakebass on Jun 5, 2021 14:25:43 GMT -6
Thanks for the input guys! Just curious, but how does the dog know when it can leave the yard? Do you take the collar off and that's it's signal? I could see a dog figuring out it's boundaries and then not wanting to cross that line. biglakebass - that unit doesn't require any buried wires or anything like that? Just plug it in and train them? I looked at the link you provided and it only talks about tone, no shock. Does it still work well without a shock? My lab knows when the collar is on, and knows exactly where she can go. She has never once "run through" the boundary. Take the collar off and she knows it. But most of the time, she will just lay down or sit on the outer boundary. If I call her, she will cross it. No wires. Put the base unit in the house, and the dog can only go 90ft away from it. So a 180 ft diameter area they can roam. It has tone and 5 shock settings. - Tone for training plus 5 levels of adjustable correction
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Post by Tooln on Jun 5, 2021 14:29:59 GMT -6
Many years ago my neighbor called me up one Saturday and asked for help burying a wire for one. He said burgers and beer were when the project was done. Ended up he had a few other buddies there also to help. We got the wire in and were sitting in the garage shooting the shit, drinking and playing with the new collar. His unit had a master controller on the wall with a 0-10 strength setting and the remote also had a 0-10 but it was slave to the master. We'd hold the collar to our arm or belly and hit the switch on the remote. We had the master on 3-4 and the remote on 7 or 8. We kept jacking them up slowly. Well Johns wife came out and said he had a phone call on the land line. He had the collar in his hand and left the remote on the lawn chair. He went into the house and his buddy next to his chair grabbed the remote and kept giving little zaps. He then cranked the master and remote to 10. John came out of the house with the collar around his neck and sat down and said which one of you ass holes has the remote. His buddy said me, John just opened a new beer and had it just about to his lips and his buddy hit the button. I'll never forget what happened next. John's legs shot out straight, his arms started shaking and beer was covering him head to toe. When his buddy let go of the button they both got up and stated running. In the yard the guy dropped the remote and another guy picked it up and turned it down some and gave John a zap. He went down like you wouldn't believe while in full stride. We all had a good laugh that night. The collar worked for the dog for about a week. Ended up the dog learned if he ran full speed he just get a little zap and he was free to roam the hood.
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Post by caveman on Jun 5, 2021 14:52:35 GMT -6
Thanks for the input guys! Just curious, but how does the dog know when it can leave the yard? Do you take the collar off and that's it's signal? I could see a dog figuring out it's boundaries and then not wanting to cross that line. biglakebass - that unit doesn't require any buried wires or anything like that? Just plug it in and train them? I looked at the link you provided and it only talks about tone, no shock. Does it still work well without a shock? That is the intent. Give them a ride in the truck to the other side.
I think a person should have the invisible fencing before the owning the puppy and never let the dog cross the boundary from day 1. Either watch it yourself, or let the invisible fence do the work.
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Post by biglakebass on Jun 5, 2021 15:47:14 GMT -6
We got petsafe after the black lab was running off into the woods. She learned day 1 with the collar after that
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Post by Catscratch on Jun 5, 2021 19:07:19 GMT -6
Many years ago my neighbor called me up one Saturday and asked for help burying a wire for one. He said burgers and beer were when the project was done. Ended up he had a few other buddies there also to help. We got the wire in and were sitting in the garage shooting the shit, drinking and playing with the new collar. His unit had a master controller on the wall with a 0-10 strength setting and the remote also had a 0-10 but it was slave to the master. We'd hold the collar to our arm or belly and hit the switch on the remote. We had the master on 3-4 and the remote on 7 or 8. We kept jacking them up slowly. Well Johns wife came out and said he had a phone call on the land line. He had the collar in his hand and left the remote on the lawn chair. He went into the house and his buddy next to his chair grabbed the remote and kept giving little zaps. He then cranked the master and remote to 10. John came out of the house with the collar around his neck and sat down and said which one of you ass holes has the remote. His buddy said me, John just opened a new beer and had it just about to his lips and his buddy hit the button. I'll never forget what happened next. John's legs shot out straight, his arms started shaking and beer was covering him head to toe. When his buddy let go of the button they both got up and stated running. In the yard the guy dropped the remote and another guy picked it up and turned it down some and gave John a zap. He went down like you wouldn't believe while in full stride. We all had a good laugh that night. The collar worked for the dog for about a week. Ended up the dog learned if he ran full speed he just get a little zap and he was free to roam the hood. Lol, great story! I'll watch some videos. Plan is to have a system decided on and in place before we pick up the pup. Hard to believe a lot of what you find on the internet (most feels like an add of some sort). I trust you guys. A thumbs up from this group is reason to look further.
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Post by Reagan on Jun 5, 2021 21:51:02 GMT -6
Guy in my hood has invisible fence. He lays down a rug in his driveway to signal his dog it’s safe to cross. I don’t think iOS dog even wears the collar anymore. He stays out till the rug goes down. The. He walks to rug to leave for his daily walk.
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