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Post by wklman on Aug 9, 2021 17:29:51 GMT -6
My toughest problem will be figuring out where they'll be coming into water. How about that waterhole step in the woods? But it might be your sanctuary. I think they're all dried up. They were low in the spring before I left.
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Post by Catscratch on Aug 9, 2021 17:49:55 GMT -6
I don't touch the soils outside my plots. Why would I? It's mostly regenerating timberland and grassy trails and forbs. You don't have any pigweed in the soil you haven't touched? None at all? I believe BobCat is making a point...
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Post by biglakebass on Aug 9, 2021 17:59:22 GMT -6
Same can be said on thistle
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Post by Foggy on Aug 9, 2021 18:11:42 GMT -6
I don't touch the soils outside my plots. Why would I? It's mostly regenerating timberland and grassy trails and forbs. You don't have any pigweed in the soil you haven't touched? None at all? None. Was mowing my plots today to get excess cut away for burn down to follow very soon (2 qt's roundup / acre....and I am gonna hit the hot-spots with interline once more). Saw pigweed in a few new locations in my plots. Kinda wonder how that transfers.....by mower or tiller or implement.....or just from the seed. Also found a few plants near the apron on my concrete at the shed. Thought all these things were odd?? Right now I got 4 major hotspots that I stay focussed on.
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Post by Catscratch on Aug 9, 2021 18:27:25 GMT -6
Foggy, in the future you'll find more pigweed growing in your gravel drive than you will your pasture. Its an early successional species. Hate crowding except for it's own. You know what's great at crowding... clovers and cereals. Know what has a very similar taproot to pigweed (same function and purpose)... chicory.
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Post by Sandbur on Aug 9, 2021 18:51:25 GMT -6
You don't have any pigweed in the soil you haven't touched? None at all? None. Was mowing my plots today to get excess cut away for burn down to follow very soon (2 qt's roundup / acre....and I am gonna hit the hot-spots with interline once more). Saw pigweed in a few new locations in my plots. Kinda wonder how that transfers.....by mower or tiller or implement.....or just from the seed. Also found a few plants near the apron on my concrete at the shed. Thought all these things were odd?? Right now I got 4 major hotspots that I stay focussed on. You don’t have any lambs quarters? I am blessed with some of both.
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Post by Foggy on Aug 9, 2021 18:54:43 GMT -6
None. Was mowing my plots today to get excess cut away for burn down to follow very soon (2 qt's roundup / acre....and I am gonna hit the hot-spots with interline once more). Saw pigweed in a few new locations in my plots. Kinda wonder how that transfers.....by mower or tiller or implement.....or just from the seed. Also found a few plants near the apron on my concrete at the shed. Thought all these things were odd?? Right now I got 4 major hotspots that I stay focussed on. You don’t have any lambs quarters? I am blessed with some of both. Aint seen any sheep around my place to date Art. Actually, I dont know what lambs quarters look like. I'm not really good at identifying weeds until a major happens.
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Post by Bob on Aug 9, 2021 20:34:11 GMT -6
You don't have any pigweed in the soil you haven't touched? None at all? None. Was mowing my plots today to get excess cut away for burn down to follow very soon (2 qt's roundup / acre....and I am gonna hit the hot-spots with interline once more). Saw pigweed in a few new locations in my plots. Kinda wonder how that transfers.....by mower or tiller or implement.....or just from the seed. Also found a few plants near the apron on my concrete at the shed. Thought all these things were odd?? Right now I got 4 major hotspots that I stay focussed on. There are a gazillion ways it could spread. A quick and easy way would be if deer have muddy hooves. They could pick up hundreds of seeds and walk them all over looking for a vacant lot with no competition. The other cat is right. I think you've got to break the cycle of kill/try/kill/try. Pigweed is a response plant. Conventional efforts to stop it are the reason it's getting ahead. If you can't whack it with the proper chem, I think you need to convert it to an aggressive high tonnage mix plot. Rye, vetch, collards, and an aggressive clover like ladino, or whatever does best in your soil. And I think you've gotta be ok with looking at it for a year or two. I may wait a little longer and try to start that high tonnage mix plot around 30-40 days before first frost. You may not get outstanding tonnage, but it'd put you on a path to try something different. I wouldn't fertilize either. Pigweed loves a high fertility no competition environment.
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