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Post by leexrayshady on Mar 20, 2017 9:45:31 GMT -6
So with me going on a Muley Hunting this fall, I should probably get a upgrade to my current .243. I have been wanting a .25-06 for a while now as lots of people on the internet say its a perfect out west gun. But not so much with elk, Now I have no plans to go chase elk but you never know. So I was thinking maybe a .270 instead. anybody have any opinions
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Post by sd51555 on Mar 20, 2017 10:06:03 GMT -6
I like to try to keep my ammo counts down. So if I've got multiple weapons, I try to keep them all in the same ammo. That being said, I would lean towards 308, but I've been told by elk guides that isn't enough for an elk. It would be nice though, if a guy wanted to have a 308 AR, you'd keep your ammo together.
That's why I went with a lever 45 colt for my deer rifle. Don't know how well that'll work just yet, but I've got 4 or 5 other pistols on 45 colt.
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Post by Foggy on Mar 20, 2017 10:07:03 GMT -6
I like the idea toward a larger bullet in case you want to hunt elk (or bear) with your new rifle. Instead of the 270 tho......I'd have a look at the 280 Remington cartridge. You can get a far wider selection of bullets with the 280 even tho the bullet diameters are so close to one another. BUT the biggest reason I prefer the 280 is that the chamber dimentions and bullet jump is generally less than with any other caliber. Its one of the few chambers that has not been bastardized by having super heavy bullets offered.....which alters how large of leade is required to chamber the rounds (if that makes sense?).
Anyway.....I am a big fan of the 280 Rem for western hunting. The 270 is good too as an all-around western big game gun........and the ammo is more readilly avaialbe if your not a reloader.
My 280 (in a Remington Mountain Rifle) has killed whitetails, mulies, coyotes, bears, antelope, elk, and more. Always gets the job done.....and is lieghtwieght and compact for carry.
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Post by Catscratch on Mar 20, 2017 10:35:17 GMT -6
I'm convinced that you can't go wrong with any modern caliber that you shoot well. That said I have a .308
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Post by wiscwhip on Mar 20, 2017 11:04:26 GMT -6
I don't know if you can consider a cartridge that is now 111 years old as a "modern caliber", and I'm sure it isn't as "sexy" as some of the rounds that came after it or were derived from it(.270/.280), but it is pretty hard to beat the versatility and availability of the .30-06 Springfield. Talk all you want about this and that, the old '06 still sits at the top of the non-belted magnum ladder when it comes to performance and sheer number of offerings of cartridge choices that cover everything from varmints to moose.
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Post by Freeborn on Mar 20, 2017 12:20:38 GMT -6
I see guns as a tool and I like to use the right tool for the job. For Mulies 270 is a good caliber so is 25/06 and 280. If I was going to use the gun for more than mulies like elk I would go 280 as it has better BC and you can shoot larger bullets than a 270. If you are hunting on foot and not on horseback go for lightweight equipment as a few days in the mountains will tire even the youngest of fellas.
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Post by Foggy on Mar 20, 2017 18:35:46 GMT -6
I see guns as a tool and I like to use the right tool for the job. For Mulies 270 is a good caliber so is 25/06 and 280. If I was going to use the gun for more than mulies like elk I would go 280 as it has better BC and you can shoot larger bullets than a 270. If you are hunting on foot and not on horseback go for lightweight equipment as a few days in the mountains will tire even the youngest of fellas. ^^^ THIS is paramount when western hunting....especially in the mountains. Any extra weight will soon be discarded in favor of a lighter alternative if you have any altitudes to climb. I laugh when I see guys that start their week with all kinds of gear in a back-pack.....only to end the week with a few essential items stuffed into their pockets. Happens all the time. You will have trade-offs with rifle calibers vs weight. Gotta have some power and smash on big critters.....but not carry excessive gun weight (worse than the pack example above). Thats why a good 7mm is kinda the gold standard in western guns. Enough bullets to get it done and flat enough trajectory to shoot a long ranges.....all wrapped into a lightweight package. There are others.....I owned a good 7STW chambered Sako for a few years....but it proved to be promlematic in holding a zero. Still that was one flat shooting SOB....and I killed some stuff at long ranges. Another good alternative is a 7mm Mag. I also own a Kimber Montanna in 300 short mag. Its on permanent loan to my son-in-law (unless I go elk hunting or moose hunting again). Great accuracy and plenty of punch on anything I care to shoot.....all in a modest recoiling, lightweight gun. Recoil is not to big of a factor in those Kimber's either.....I think the stock design has allot to do with it (I believe it's a Brown stock IIRC??). When you get guns that weigh less than say 8 lbs.......the rubber meets the road. You NEED a great trigger and good accuracy for shots at 300 yards and more. Choose wisely!
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Post by ace on Mar 20, 2017 18:57:59 GMT -6
I'm a huge .308 fan...not so much a .270 fan at all.
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Post by Reagan on Mar 20, 2017 19:52:53 GMT -6
I would highly recommend a Muzzy 100 grain 3 blade.
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Post by wklman on Mar 20, 2017 22:36:26 GMT -6
Whatever you can shoot accurately and confidently lee. My new favorite is a 6.5 Creedmoor. I'd shoot an elk with it at the right distances.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Mar 21, 2017 6:10:40 GMT -6
Whatever you can shoot accurately and confidently lee. My new favorite is a 6.5 Creedmoor. I'd shoot an elk with it at the right distances. I have the 6.5 Creedmore, a 308, 243, 30-06. I like the 308, and 30-06 for everything.
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Post by Freeborn on Mar 21, 2017 6:16:13 GMT -6
Whatever you can shoot accurately and confidently lee. My new favorite is a 6.5 Creedmoor. I'd shoot an elk with it at the right distances. I would add to this at distance. Allot of guys claim they can shoot 5-6-700 yards and honestly that is a very rare skill. Even more rare in a big game (in the field situation) situation. Allot of manufacturers fed the velocity craze but few guys can accurately shoot at those ranges. Stay away from some of the cannon calibers (30-378 and many more) unless you can use them. Most guys don't practice shooting at over 300 yards and unless you have 14/16 power scope you won't be able to see anything much past 300 yards anyway. I belong to a good gun club that has a 300 meter range and in a one shot big game hunting situation I would not shoot much farther than what I have practiced.
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Post by Satchmo on Mar 21, 2017 7:15:58 GMT -6
I love my .270! Have since I bought it in 1985. I've taken a lot of whitetails, mulies and bear with it, but for larger game I would definitely move to a caliber with more bullet weight options. I think my next rifle will be a .308 just 'cuz. Best advise I have is practice, practice, practice, if you plan on shooting longer distances. From what I've seen, 90% of the guys out there should not be shooting over 200 yards, and that is stretching it for a lot of them. This "I can hit a plate at 100 yards, good enough" shit doesn't accomplish anything but wounding animals.
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Post by wiscwhip on Mar 21, 2017 7:48:30 GMT -6
Stay away from some of the cannon calibers (30-378 and many more) unless you can use them.
Oh come on Freeborn, the .300 Kong(.30-378 Weatherby) is just what the average guy needs in his gun cabinet. It ONLY has twice the felt recoil of a .30-06. It's not like your shooting a .600 Nitro Express or anything.
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Post by Catscratch on Mar 21, 2017 7:55:50 GMT -6
^^^ I have a .50 in the cabinet. Even shoot it once in a while But at 34lbs weigh-in the recoil isn't all that bad. Much more comfortable to shoot than the Swedish made Smith & Wesson 30-06 I had. Not much more comfortable to carry around!
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