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Post by Foggy on Jun 16, 2022 21:34:36 GMT -6
 Not certain what I got going here. This area was way too wet to get to until recently.....and now my clover is being overtaken by this chit. I think it may be chickweed....but a good ID would help me out. Nice clover and chicory plot very near by.....and got to get this under control soon. Help? I'm thinking cloth will do the trick. I'd like to spray tomorrow. Here is the nearby clover and chicory.  |
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Post by Sandbur on Jun 17, 2022 5:39:20 GMT -6
That clover looks thin. If it has dried out, mebbe time to till, lime, aerate the soil, and replant?  I think I have seen that on my wetter soils. The tile should help in a couple of those spots. |
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Post by Freeborn on Jun 17, 2022 7:39:17 GMT -6
^^ Cleth is only for grasses so you should get part of your problem fixed. I would download one of the plant identification applications to your phone and use that to make a list of the weeds you need to kill. Once you have the list you can figure out what will work best for killing what you need.
Food plots can be a pain as soon as you get done dealing with drought you're dealing with to much water.
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Post by smsmith on Jun 17, 2022 8:02:39 GMT -6
The 2nd and 3rd pics have a bunch of broadleaf plantain (not chicory to my eyes). Tough to kill with herbicides. Usually found on compacted/moist soil. The first pic has a bunch of what I call annual bluegrass setting seed. Too late to hit with cleth because it's too mature. You may want to invest in some IMOX/Raptor next year  edit...I think I'm seeing a bunch of grass seedlings (maybe fall panicum) in that last pic. Hitting that stuff with cleth/crop oil right now would wipe it out. |
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Post by caveman on Jun 17, 2022 15:05:26 GMT -6
2nd to the plantain in the pics, not chicory. It appears the creeping charlie killer mix I use of tryc../24d/dicamba nukes it good, but would do the same to your clover. IMO till that plot and start over.  |
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Post by Foggy on Jun 17, 2022 17:50:09 GMT -6
I did hit that plot with some Cloth today and will see what happens. If I gotta start over....well....it is what it is. At this point .....I will wait a few weeks and see if I can revive a once great clover plot. I can always nuke it and start over this fall. Darn plot was just too wet all spring to get ANTYING in there. Never had such high water table as this year. Strange times for me.
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Post by smsmith on Jun 17, 2022 17:58:56 GMT -6
I did hit that plot with some Cloth today and will see what happens. If I gotta start over....well....it is what it is. At this point .....I will wait a few weeks and see if I can revive a once great clover plot. I can always nuke it and start over this fall. Darn plot was just too wet all spring to get ANTYING in there. Never had such high water table as this year. Strange times for me. IMO- there's no need to nuke it all and start over. Let 'er go this year and then hit it early next spring with Imox. My house plot really cleaned up after I hit it with Imox this spring. Timing appears to be everything with Imox though. Hit weeds when they're young (4" or less) according to the label and the stuff works great. |
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Post by badgerfowl on Jun 17, 2022 18:12:00 GMT -6
I did hit that plot with some Cloth today and will see what happens. If I gotta start over....well....it is what it is. At this point .....I will wait a few weeks and see if I can revive a once great clover plot. I can always nuke it and start over this fall. Darn plot was just too wet all spring to get ANTYING in there. Never had such high water table as this year. Strange times for me. IMO- there's no need to nuke it all and start over. Let 'er go this year and then hit it early next spring with Imox. My house plot really cleaned up after I hit it with Imox this spring. Timing appears to be everything with Imox though. Hit weeds when they're young (4" or less) according to the label and the stuff works great. I’m going to have to try this on my little West Plot that got overtaken with weeds this year. |
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Post by Foggy on Jun 17, 2022 18:51:58 GMT -6
I did hit that plot with some Cloth today and will see what happens. If I gotta start over....well....it is what it is. At this point .....I will wait a few weeks and see if I can revive a once great clover plot. I can always nuke it and start over this fall. Darn plot was just too wet all spring to get ANTYING in there. Never had such high water table as this year. Strange times for me. IMO- there's no need to nuke it all and start over. Let 'er go this year and then hit it early next spring with Imox. My house plot really cleaned up after I hit it with Imox this spring. Timing appears to be everything with Imox though. Hit weeds when they're young (4" or less) according to the label and the stuff works great. Never used IMOX....may have to learn a new one. Thanks. |
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Post by smsmith on Jun 17, 2022 18:55:46 GMT -6
Shop around when looking for IMOX/Raptor/Octivio/Beyond/Clearcast. All the same AI, just find the best price.
It isn't "cheap" but when you consider you're using 4-9 oz./acre it isn't that bad.
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Post by Foggy on Jun 26, 2022 16:46:18 GMT -6
Today I was putting up game cameras.....and was in this same plot. I had clipped my clover before it rained.....and that seems to have revived about 1/2 of the plot.....and the cleth may have worked on those grasses (?).....not sure yet. If not I will nuke about 1/10 of an acre that was affected.....and plant that into brassicas / clover and more rye in July / August. HOWEVER....as I had planted the rye portion of this field with GCC Summer Release....and that and the clover from last fall is growing nicely under the rye that was not impacted by the drown out I checked to see how viable the rye is. I think I killed it pretty well with the cleth.....and the crops below seem to be flourishing. I decided I wanted to either roll that rye to provide better mulch.....or instead try the flail mower which was already hitched up to my tractor. Thought flail mowing would be a good way to compare the results one could expect if you did NOT purchase a roller / crimper. Might be better??? Dunno. I did mow most of the plot at about 6 to 8" height......leaving about a 10 foot wide strip of my crops and the rye untouched. Will make a comparison in a few weeks to determine the values of each scenario. As this was some of the worst pig weed I had last year...this could be a good test to see if flail mowed mulch is up to the task of controlling pig weeds. More to come in the next weeks. I left the rye standing as shown in the photo below.    |
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