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Post by buckvelvet on Mar 27, 2017 7:14:03 GMT -6
I always keep my grafts in buckets while they heal, last year I transplanted them into the nursery. Whats to keep me from keeping them in the buckets all year until I transplant them next spring 2018? As long as they have some peat moss and some compose in that bucket why wouldn't it work? I'll drill holes in the bottom to let water escape so they aren't drowned.
I guess my 2 concerns would be freezing in the winter & cramped roots.......
Thoughts?
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Post by smsmith on Mar 27, 2017 7:19:16 GMT -6
Roots could (will?) start growing together into one big mess that will require you to damage them in order to separate them. If you went with one or two grafts per bucket, that might work....but you'd still have to protect them during winter.
Why not just plant them in their forever homes once they've healed?
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Post by nhmountains on Mar 27, 2017 8:22:26 GMT -6
If you use M111, they could also bur knot together and create an issue with the trunks. I'd plant them in a nursery or in their final locations.
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Post by buckvelvet on Mar 27, 2017 9:02:05 GMT -6
Well one reason I considered this option is because I'm taking about 20 some trees out of the nursery and adding 40 back in. That math doesn't really work, lol. I have a problem, an addiction even, maybe I should kill like 15 trees on accident.
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Post by smsmith on Mar 27, 2017 10:09:38 GMT -6
Just because you graft a variety and get it to take doesn't mean you can add that variety to your "have" list.  A lot of work goes into planting and caring for each of those grafts for the years before they even start to bear fruit, much less hit maturity. |
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Post by buckvelvet on Mar 27, 2017 10:45:06 GMT -6
Just because you graft a variety and get it to take doesn't mean you can add that variety to your "have" list. A lot of work goes into planting and caring for each of those grafts for the years before they even start to bear fruit, much less hit maturity. That was a catastrophically dark statement. Though true, I still don't have to stand here and take that kind of negativity in my life.  I know what ya mean though for sure! I babied all my stuff the best I could last year in the nursery and of coarse those I have planted out in the field. So much work! I love every second of it though, except the cutting the fencing part I really hate that, also pounding in the t post, that high pitch is awful! So technically I only have zero varieties since they aren't mature or producing fruit, success is such a fickle thing.  |
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Post by smsmith on Mar 27, 2017 10:53:17 GMT -6
I had Candy Crisp on my "have" list last year at this time. Then, some dumb deer got a wild hair and busted the damn thing off at the ground as well as bending the hell out of the cement wire cage "protecting" that tree  I save a scion or two from that tree, but I have my doubts as to whether they'll take. They've been in the fridge since November. For all I know, the damn thing wasn't even a Candy Crisp. Stark Bros. could have screwed up and sent me some other variety. I have a tree in the ground now from a local nursery (reseller of Bailey's Nursery trees) that was labeled as Northwest Greening. It is not a NW Greening. I'm guessing it's a Zestar. |
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Post by nhmountains on Mar 27, 2017 11:10:07 GMT -6
BV, Instead of taking vacations going to the beach and eating seafood you should been getting the ground ready for those trees. Just kidding. Dont you have open ground you can use? |
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Post by buckvelvet on Mar 27, 2017 11:10:54 GMT -6
I had Candy Crisp on my "have" list last year at this time. Then, some dumb deer got a wild hair and busted the damn thing off at the ground as well as bending the hell out of the cement wire cage "protecting" that tree I save a scion or two from that tree, but I have my doubts as to whether they'll take. They've been in the fridge since November. For all I know, the damn thing wasn't even a Candy Crisp. Stark Bros. could have screwed up and sent me some other variety. I have a tree in the ground now from a local nursery (reseller of Bailey's Nursery trees) that was labeled as Northwest Greening. It is not a NW Greening. I'm guessing it's a Zestar. WOW! NWG is a LONG way from Zestar! crazy..... Don't tell me those kinds of stories! |
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Post by buckvelvet on Mar 27, 2017 11:12:23 GMT -6
BV, Instead of taking vacations going to the beach and eating seafood you should been getting the ground ready for those trees. Just kidding. Dont you have open ground you can use? I have lots of open ground to use....... Are you suggesting i take all my grafts this year and plant them out....... Thats a lot of work, but a good thought, maybe i will......... danget I hate cutting all that fencing. I do it with a hand tool. |
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Post by nhmountains on Mar 27, 2017 11:48:54 GMT -6
If I had open ground and the money to buy the fencing and window screen I'd get them in this year. Or at least clean out your nursery and get those planted. I know your soil is sandy so maybe you're trying to build up roots in the nursery before orchard planting?
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Post by nhmountains on Mar 27, 2017 11:49:52 GMT -6
Any chance you can get the wife involved? I've had a great time with mine pruning this year. She's helped a lot.
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Post by smsmith on Mar 27, 2017 11:53:58 GMT -6
BV, Instead of taking vacations going to the beach and eating seafood you should been getting the ground ready for those trees. Just kidding. Dont you have open ground you can use? I have lots of open ground to use....... Are you suggesting i take all my grafts this year and plant them out....... Thats a lot of work, but a good thought, maybe i will......... danget I hate cutting all that fencing. I do it with a hand tool. I've been using 5' tubes for my first year grafts. Quicker, easier, and cheaper than cutting fencing all at once. I add fencing each year, and by the time the grafts are in their 3rd year they'll all be caged. |
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Post by buckvelvet on Mar 27, 2017 12:20:18 GMT -6
I've tubed fruit trees before, makes then tremendously weak in caliper from what I seen, I had a wild apple seedling that grew to be over 6 feet its first year, i removed the tube and it flopped over on the ground.
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Post by buckvelvet on Mar 27, 2017 12:21:50 GMT -6
Any chance you can get the wife involved? I've had a great time with mine pruning this year. She's helped a lot. Not this gal, its me, the lonesome apple ranger. I mean your talkin digging and caging 80 some trees if I did them all. I just don't know if I could pull that off. |
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