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Post by badbrad on Mar 28, 2017 11:26:40 GMT -6
Will a cultipacker put red clover seed too deep? Finally got a packer last fall and have never done it. Previously I would just broadcast and let the rain or frost do the work. Thoughts?
Also oats. Would you drag or cultpacker oats to get the right depth and seed to soil contact.
Right now I'm thinking broadcast oats cultipack. Broadcast clover and drive over the top with atv tires. |
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Post by biglakebass on Mar 28, 2017 11:39:49 GMT -6
I mix oats and clover and broadcast all at one time. Cultipack. Done.
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Post by badbrad on Mar 28, 2017 11:57:46 GMT -6
I mix oats and clover and broadcast all at one time. Cultipack. Done.
10-4. Good to know. That is why you ask the question.
I'll probably broadcast separately though because it seems if you mix big seeds and little seeds its impossible to get a good even coverage.
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Post by Tooln on Mar 28, 2017 12:50:28 GMT -6
I broadcast my WR and oats, run over it with my drag turned upside down then broadcast the clover and pack.
edit to get it right
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Post by mnaaron on Mar 28, 2017 14:44:44 GMT -6
We do it just like Tooln. I have found that oats germ better when covered with dirt rather than simply pressed into.
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Post by kabic on Mar 28, 2017 16:52:35 GMT -6
Tooln: are you basically saying if you did not have oats in the equation would pack once to firm the seed bed, spread the clover, and then pack a second time?
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Post by Tooln on Mar 28, 2017 17:55:05 GMT -6
Tooln: are you basically saying if you did not have oats in the equation would pack once to firm the seed bed, spread the clover, and then pack a second time? I messed up the first post, wasn't awake all the way yet. If I'm planting oats or WR I'll disk or till the plot, drag it smooth, broadcast the WR or oats & drag again. Then I'll broadcast the clover and pack. If no cover crop, I'll till or disk, drag it smooth, broadcast and then pack. |
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Post by badbrad on Mar 29, 2017 6:48:20 GMT -6
Tooln: are you basically saying if you did not have oats in the equation would pack once to firm the seed bed, spread the clover, and then pack a second time? I messed up the first post, wasn't awake all the way yet. If I'm planting oats or WR I'll disk or till the plot, drag it smooth, broadcast the WR or oats & drag again. Then I'll broadcast the clover and pack.
If no cover crop, I'll till or disk, drag it smooth, broadcast and then pack.
That was my plan right there.
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Post by kabic on Mar 29, 2017 7:50:09 GMT -6
I will defer to those with actual experience. I have read that people pack to firm the seedbed, broadcast the clover seed then back again. They do this so that the clover seed doesn't get pushed in too deep.
With everything we discuss, I'm sure a lot had to do with your soil type and how you are preparing the seed bed. If you till deep and have a fluffy soil, that might require a different method then if soil is a little more firm and you just worked the top inch or so.
I have no actual experience preparing a seedbed for clover, I have been using the frost seed method.
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Post by badbrad on Mar 29, 2017 9:04:39 GMT -6
I will defer to those with actual experience. I have read that people pack to firm the seedbed, broadcast the clover seed then back again. They do this so that the clover seed doesn't get pushed in too deep. With everything we discuss, I'm sure a lot had to do with your soil type and how you are preparing the seed bed. If you till deep and have a fluffy soil, that might require a different method then if soil is a little more firm and you just worked the top inch or so. I have no actual experience preparing a seedbed for clover, I have been using the frost seed method.
Makes sense for sure. Now that I have a new tool (packer) I have to learn how and when to use it for different seeds. This is all new to me.
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Post by terrifictom on Mar 29, 2017 9:31:56 GMT -6
I will defer to those with actual experience. I have read that people pack to firm the seedbed, broadcast the clover seed then back again. They do this so that the clover seed doesn't get pushed in too deep. With everything we discuss, I'm sure a lot had to do with your soil type and how you are preparing the seed bed. If you till deep and have a fluffy soil, that might require a different method then if soil is a little more firm and you just worked the top inch or so. I have no actual experience preparing a seedbed for clover, I have been using the frost seed method. You are right on the money. If your soil is light and fluffy, it would benefit to cultipak 1st, broadcast seed and then run over the seed with a cultipaker again. This is what I do when I plant my brassicas. As far as grains I cover them with a disc or lightly drag and then cultipak to insure good seed to soil contact. |
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Post by wiscwhip on Mar 29, 2017 11:46:48 GMT -6
What kabic and Tom said^^^. With loose soil, till/disk, spread grains(oats wheat/rye), drag, pack, spread clover, repack. Seems like more passes than needed to many folks(see above comments), and what was suggested WILL work, but if you are in doubt, packing before and after the clover will ensure it doesn't get buried too deep and we all know a failed planting just plain sucks.
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