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Post by Reagan on Mar 26, 2024 8:40:42 GMT -6
I have my M111 bench grafted and ready to go in the ground soon. Depending on the caliper of the rootstock and scion, some are grafted high and some lower. For those grafted high on the rootstock, should I bury most of the root stock in the ground? Will it put on more roots if I do that?
Best mulch. Limestone or hardwood?
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Post by smsmith on Mar 26, 2024 9:14:50 GMT -6
I've seen various stuff on burying the grafts deeper. One thing that is consistent is that M111 tends to develop burr knots. The recommendations I've seen for M111 say to only leave an inch or two of the rootstock above ground when planting. Probably good advice. Apples and pears are a couple of the few species that can develop new roots along their stems/trunks when in contact with the soil
I'm not a mulch guy anymore, mainly because I've got too many trees to deal with. When I did use mulch, I went with crushed limestone. Tried wood mulch but always ended up with insects/diseases/fungi/rodents.
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Post by Sandbur on Mar 28, 2024 8:08:52 GMT -6
I've seen various stuff on burying the grafts deeper. One thing that is consistent is that M111 tends to develop burr knots. The recommendations I've seen for M111 say to only leave an inch or two of the rootstock above ground when planting. Probably good advice. Apples and pears are a couple of the few species that can develop new roots along their stems/trunks when in contact with the soil I'm not a mulch guy anymore, mainly because I've got too many trees to deal with. When I did use mulch, I went with crushed limestone. Tried wood mulch but always ended up with insects/diseases/fungi/rodents. Has anyone fruited M111? |
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Post by smsmith on Mar 28, 2024 8:37:26 GMT -6
I've seen various stuff on burying the grafts deeper. One thing that is consistent is that M111 tends to develop burr knots. The recommendations I've seen for M111 say to only leave an inch or two of the rootstock above ground when planting. Probably good advice. Apples and pears are a couple of the few species that can develop new roots along their stems/trunks when in contact with the soil I'm not a mulch guy anymore, mainly because I've got too many trees to deal with. When I did use mulch, I went with crushed limestone. Tried wood mulch but always ended up with insects/diseases/fungi/rodents. Has anyone fruited M111? I have not. Maybe I should just plant one of my m111 rootstocks this spring...or try rooting the cut off pieces and then plant any that root. |
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Post by benmnwi on Mar 28, 2024 12:01:24 GMT -6
I've seen various stuff on burying the grafts deeper. One thing that is consistent is that M111 tends to develop burr knots. The recommendations I've seen for M111 say to only leave an inch or two of the rootstock above ground when planting. Probably good advice. Apples and pears are a couple of the few species that can develop new roots along their stems/trunks when in contact with the soil I'm not a mulch guy anymore, mainly because I've got too many trees to deal with. When I did use mulch, I went with crushed limestone. Tried wood mulch but always ended up with insects/diseases/fungi/rodents. Has anyone fruited M111? No. I've planted quite a few trees from seeds and also some extra seedling rootstock I had leftover, but I believe they were antonovka rootstock and not M111. |
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Post by nhmountains on Mar 28, 2024 13:16:52 GMT -6
I would agree with Stu. Bury those M111 so the graft union is not too far above the ground. Keep weeds away as well because moisture seems to make them burr knot. Keep mulch away from the base.
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Post by Reagan on Mar 28, 2024 19:11:22 GMT -6
12 in the ground today. I mulched with limestone. Tomorrow 8 more for the orchard and 2 grafted from wild trees Trooper gave me. The wild are going into a woods opening.
Some of the Bradford pears are already leafed out. I’ll be grafting this weekend too.
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Post by Reagan on Apr 6, 2024 9:52:35 GMT -6
Took a few m111 cuttings from my bench grafting, dipped in rooting powder and stuck in a pot outside. Could these possibly root and grow?  |
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Post by smsmith on Apr 6, 2024 9:58:26 GMT -6
Took a few m111 cuttings from my bench grafting, dipped in rooting powder and stuck in a pot outside. Could these possibly root and grow? Yep, they could. I rooted a few of them and a couple b118s a few years ago. Got zero takes from Antonovka though |
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