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Post by sd51555 on May 10, 2017 7:12:33 GMT -6
Does/can a rootstock selection impact a tree's ability to withstand disease issues, or is that wholey dependent on fruit selection?
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Post by buckvelvet on May 10, 2017 8:44:02 GMT -6
Some of the newer Geneva roostocks, specifically dwarfing are whooly aphid resistant. However most fruit types aren't so does that mean they just need to crawl up past the stock to get to the variety? I'm not really sure how that stuff works. I know this doesn't answer your questions buy i'm just thinking out loud.
I plant on B118, Ranetka, & Antonovka for its vigor, ability to stand on its own legs and its longevity. The fact that is does great in the cold are bonus pts to me.
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Post by nhmountains on May 10, 2017 14:04:33 GMT -6
The rootstock is part of the puzzle which determines disease resistance and cold tolerance. Some are better than others. The scions also determine disease and cold tolerance as some are more susceptible than others. Location also has some bearing.
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Post by nhmountains on May 10, 2017 19:45:10 GMT -6
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Post by sd51555 on May 10, 2017 23:01:43 GMT -6
Consider that bookmarked.
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Post by nhmountains on May 11, 2017 0:49:50 GMT -6
Are you looking at grafting trees for your land?
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Post by sd51555 on May 11, 2017 6:12:43 GMT -6
When I get to that point yes. I think that may be next spring, or perhaps some t-budding this summer. I dream of growing some of those monster sized trees that produce a truckload of apples each.
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Post by Sandbur on May 11, 2017 6:31:30 GMT -6
The Antanovka that are used are not seedlings? I see they d onot mention many of the seedlings rootstocks that are used in some areas. |
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Post by nhmountains on May 11, 2017 17:58:10 GMT -6
SD,
I'd buy up some B118 rootstock and plant them. They grow fast. They'll produce green apples if you let them go. If you want to graft later they are ready for you. They're disease resistant and cold tolerant. Stu uses other cold tolerant crabs for rootstock that could be planted as well.
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Post by nhmountains on May 11, 2017 17:59:40 GMT -6
The Antanovka that are used are not seedlings? I see they d onot mention many of the seedlings rootstocks that are used in some areas. I'm guessing they sell the trees on the rootstock they reference. |
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Post by Sandbur on May 11, 2017 18:19:56 GMT -6
I will rephrase my question.
Are all Antanovka rootstocks clonal and are they all of one clone/type?
I have two Anty's that seemed very susceptible to CAR and produced apples that I did not really like. I top worked them.
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Post by Sandbur on May 11, 2017 19:21:40 GMT -6
Today I was looking at some standard sized trees at a nursery that purchases from Baileys. The tags did not indicate rootstock on the standards.
The owner contacted Baileys for me and they use Dolgo or Columbia for their standard sized trees. Bailey trees have always done well for me.
I suspect there are regional differences in what is preferred.
Several years ago, Stu and I decided that what I call garden crab is Columbia. I sent some scion to Turkey creek and called it Big Dog. It''s a great deer crab.
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Post by nhmountains on May 11, 2017 20:45:13 GMT -6
I will rephrase my question. Are all Antanovka rootstocks clonal and are they all of one clone/type? I have two Anty's that seemed very susceptible to CAR and produced apples that I did not really like. I top worked them. I'm not sure if antonovka rootstock is grown from seed or clonal? I've read where it is mostly true to seed but, maybe they propagate it through stool beds too? I know B118 is propagated through stool beds. I've done it and have a bed going now. |
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