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Post by Freeborn on May 24, 2017 10:33:50 GMT -6
Kill more deer. Which in turn will kill the license revenue for the DNR down the road. Morons are too stupid to see the value deer hunting brings to the state and to their bottom line. Do we have any data on license sales?
I have been questioning why hunters continue to go afield with such poor results? Tradition? Hunting is more about drinking with your buddies then hunting? BLB, you have land close to you where 6-8 guys are on 40-80 acres, the hunting has to suck. Eventually the poor hunting should reduce license sales but things change slowly.
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Post by biglakebass on May 24, 2017 10:36:40 GMT -6
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Post by biglakebass on May 24, 2017 10:41:13 GMT -6
Kill more deer. Which in turn will kill the license revenue for the DNR down the road. Morons are too stupid to see the value deer hunting brings to the state and to their bottom line. Do we have any data on license sales?
I have been questioning why hunters continue to go afield with such poor results? Tradition? Hunting is more about drinking with your buddies then hunting? BLB, you have land close to you where 6-8 guys are on 40-80 acres, the hunting has to suck. Eventually the poor hunting should reduce license sales but things change slowly.
Our land is in the vicinity of 8 guys on 160 acres(80 acres of woods), 10 guys on 40 acres, 3 guys on 40 acres(about 5 acres of woods), 3 guys on 80 acres(maybe 10 acres of woods), etc etc.... Thankfully the landowner to our south has 300+ acres and only him and his son hunt. But its nearly all pastured, so cover is NOT very prevalent. Deer hunting is a tradition and a party for a couple of those neighbors. They will go to deer camp even if deer went extinct.
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Post by smsmith on May 24, 2017 11:59:31 GMT -6
^^^yep.
Traditions are great I suppose, but the DNR is using deer hunters' traditions against themselves. The DNR knows how strong of a tradition the rut hunt with firearms is in this state, and they know the vast majority will continue to buy licenses even with a deer herd a fraction of the size it used to be.
Want change (for the better) in this state? Get 25%+ of deer hunters to not buy licenses and to inundate ODN with letters stating the reason they won't be buying those licenses is because of piss poor deer management on the DNR's part. Outside of that...I'm not sure there is anything we could do on a statewide level.
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Post by biglakebass on May 24, 2017 13:04:54 GMT -6
....surely not with the cwd trump card in their dainty little hands.
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Post by terrifictom on May 25, 2017 5:58:24 GMT -6
Speaking from what happened when Wisconsin started allowing scopes on muzzle loaders. The increase in deer kills was almost no change at all.
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Post by Freeborn on May 25, 2017 6:02:41 GMT -6
That's good news. Most guys have traditions and if its not part of there tradition they probably won't try it.
However, if hunting continues to be poor in Minnesota there will be some guys who try it.
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Post by smsmith on May 25, 2017 6:08:49 GMT -6
Given what I've observed since moving here...a scoped inline muzzleloader is likely the "easiest" way to take a trophy buck around here. With available food, cold weather, seemingly annual snowstorms during the muzzie season, and deer returning to normal patterns...a long range weapon like that is the ticket.
1% more deer taken around here would have an impact...when compounded annually
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Post by sd51555 on May 25, 2017 6:11:32 GMT -6
A guy has to account for cultural differences between Wisconsin and Minnesota too. As much as I believe in the misinformed middle, I also think we've got a far bigger problem with "kill-everything" hunters than Wisconsin.
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Post by Bwoods11 on May 25, 2017 10:57:05 GMT -6
Given what I've observed since moving here...a scoped inline muzzleloader is likely the "easiest" way to take a trophy buck around here. With available food, cold weather, seemingly annual snowstorms during the muzzie season, and deer returning to normal patterns...a long range weapon like that is the ticket. 1% more deer taken around here would have an impact...when compounded annually Could be scary really. I know of 3 really nice bucks within 6 miles of Starbuck... that made it into late season last year, and they were shot during that early cold stretch we had. One was pushing 170. Add scopes in the mix, and we will have more guys, no doubt. Nice comfy Box stands are changing how we all hunt as well. Put a little heater in the blind and you can sit forever.
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Post by biglakebass on May 25, 2017 11:05:29 GMT -6
Its not just more people. Its simply that people will become more effective at filling tags too.
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Post by Catscratch on May 25, 2017 11:16:41 GMT -6
Kansas continues to inch rifle season closer and closer to the rut. On yrs that the dates align for a weekend it really puts the hammer on mature bucks. They also have added an antler-less rifle season in January. I know a deer processor fairly well and there are a lot of really big bodied bucks brought in that had either "shed" already or had broken mains from "fighting". Cold weather, rifles, and corn sure makes things a lot easier against these older deer.
As said above, I think it will hurt your mature buck population.
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Post by Bwoods11 on May 25, 2017 12:08:01 GMT -6
Kansas continues to inch rifle season closer and closer to the rut. On yrs that the dates align for a weekend it really puts the hammer on mature bucks. They also have added an antler-less rifle season in January. I know a deer processor fairly well and there are a lot of really big bodied bucks brought in that had either "shed" already or had broken mains from "fighting". Cold weather, rifles, and corn sure makes things a lot easier against these older deer. As said above, I think it will hurt your mature buck population. Iowa used to have the January doe season, and the locals in Iowa called it the "shed buck" season. If my memory serves me right, a couple thousand bucks were shot in that season---how dumb!
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Post by mnfish on May 25, 2017 12:27:54 GMT -6
As hunters drop out (they are and will continue), recruitment of young hunters is damn near non existent, the hunters left behind will need to be more effective. Longer seasons with state of the art equipment will ensure this.
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Post by sd51555 on May 25, 2017 22:06:31 GMT -6
Yet it'll seem like nobody is dropping out because decent areas will get more pressure and shit areas will be abandoned completely.
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