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Post by sd51555 on Jul 10, 2017 20:18:55 GMT -6
Anyone have any insight on whipping up a hot mix of boron, vinegar, and salt to kill thistles? I know boron can get toxic quickly when overapplied, but the residual wouldn't be as bad compared to listed chemicals. I wouldn't think it'd be too bad at all if it doesn't run off the the actual plants.
Any insights?
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Post by nhmountains on Aug 13, 2017 7:26:13 GMT -6
I've heard vinegar will kill lots of different plants " organically ." I think you mix it with a dish detergent and spray it so it sticks on better.
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Post by Catscratch on Aug 13, 2017 8:51:46 GMT -6
I think I remember Dgallow trying this mix, with poor results (high cost and no kill). You might surf his thread on DeerHunter to see if you can find exactly what he did. I also seem to remember that it has to be a higher concentration of acetic acid than what is available at stores, chemical grade type stuff.
My memory might be off though so don't take my word for it, double check me.
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 13, 2017 8:58:23 GMT -6
I think I remember Dgallow trying this mix, with poor results (high cost and no kill). You might surf his thread on DeerHunter to see if you can find exactly what he did. I also seem to remember that it has to be a higher concentration of acetic acid than what is available at stores, chemical grade type stuff. My memory might be off though so don't take my word for it, double check me. The reality is, even if it worked, it'd probably be temporary. That plot really just needs to be converted to clover and stay mowed for a few years. Did you ever get your deer to eat thistles? |
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Post by Catscratch on Aug 13, 2017 9:06:12 GMT -6
I think I remember Dgallow trying this mix, with poor results (high cost and no kill). You might surf his thread on DeerHunter to see if you can find exactly what he did. I also seem to remember that it has to be a higher concentration of acetic acid than what is available at stores, chemical grade type stuff. My memory might be off though so don't take my word for it, double check me. The reality is, even if it worked, it'd probably be temporary. That plot really just needs to be converted to clover and stay mowed for a few years. Did you ever get your deer to eat thistles? I had some thistles disappear after spraying them with a molasses/water mix, but I have no proof that deer ate them and no evidence that they ate any that weren't sprayed. To be honest I didn't spend much time on the project. I found taking corn and molasses out on a regular basis to be tedious (I don't feed corn, I just do plots). So in reality I never even got into the training stage. |
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Post by Freeborn on Aug 13, 2017 10:13:14 GMT -6
It would be nice to have a non-toxic chemical for around camp so people and pets are away from herbicides. You know pets, they eat everything including the stuff you spray.
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Post by smsmith on Aug 13, 2017 10:39:26 GMT -6
I don't know for sure, but I'd bet a mix of boron/vinegar/salt is more toxic to humans than glyphosate
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Post by Tooln on Aug 13, 2017 12:23:06 GMT -6
Anyone have any insight on whipping up a hot mix of boron, vinegar, and salt to kill thistles? I know boron can get toxic quickly when overapplied, but the residual wouldn't be as bad compared to listed chemicals. I wouldn't think it'd be too bad at all if it doesn't run off the the actual plants. Any insights? My wife mix's vinegar, salt and dawn dish soap to put on weeds around her flower beds and landscaping in the yard. I keep telling her gly would work better and faster but she doesn't want it use around the house. |
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Post by biglakebass on Aug 13, 2017 21:49:29 GMT -6
Anyone have any insight on whipping up a hot mix of boron, vinegar, and salt to kill thistles? I know boron can get toxic quickly when overapplied, but the residual wouldn't be as bad compared to listed chemicals. I wouldn't think it'd be too bad at all if it doesn't run off the the actual plants. Any insights? My wife mix's vinegar, salt and dawn dish soap to put on weeds around her flower beds and landscaping in the yard. I keep telling her gly would work better and faster but she doesn't want it use around the house. Does your wife realize that much of Americas crops are sprayed with Gly and other chemicals and at some point reaching her table in one form or another?  |
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Post by Tooln on Aug 14, 2017 0:07:27 GMT -6
My wife mix's vinegar, salt and dawn dish soap to put on weeds around her flower beds and landscaping in the yard. I keep telling her gly would work better and faster but she doesn't want it use around the house. Does your wife realize that much of Americas crops are sprayed with Gly and other chemicals and at some point reaching her table in one form or another? Yes I've told her that time and time again. But I know better than t o argue this one with her, just not worth the effort. |
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Post by nhmountains on Aug 14, 2017 1:59:58 GMT -6
I think I remember Dgallow trying this mix, with poor results (high cost and no kill). You might surf his thread on DeerHunter to see if you can find exactly what he did. I also seem to remember that it has to be a higher concentration of acetic acid than what is available at stores, chemical grade type stuff. My memory might be off though so don't take my word for it, double check me. The reality is, even if it worked, it'd probably be temporary. That plot really just needs to be converted to clover and stay mowed for a few years. Did you ever get your deer to eat thistles? I've seen deer in Canada at Anticosti Island in Quebec eat thistle flower heads. There's not a lot of food there though. No food plots, apples, or acorns. |
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