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Post by wildfire123 on Jul 18, 2017 10:56:51 GMT -6
The House and Senate should repeal it now! When they do, they will lose their health care also. When they come up with a new plan, they can have the same as everyone else gets.
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Post by jbird on Jul 18, 2017 11:23:26 GMT -6
Hahahahahaha - you think those that make the rules are going to do something where they themselves have to follow as well!!!!! What country do you live in? Our government doesn't represent us....they represent themselves and the corporations that put them there. They might as well wear jackets like NASCAR drivers do with all the damn sponsors all over it. At least them we know who they REALLY represent ......because John Q. Public sure as hell isn't one of them. The more money they get from a sponsor the bigger the patch....you will see then who these folks really answer to!!!!!
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Post by buckvelvet on Jul 18, 2017 14:11:55 GMT -6
Yeah this is what I do for a living, lets not hold our breath, even though I really think DJT wants to get something through...
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Post by sd51555 on Jul 18, 2017 14:27:37 GMT -6
Hahahahahaha - you think those that make the rules are going to do something where they themselves have to follow as well!!!!! What country do you live in? Our government doesn't represent us.... they represent themselves and the corporations that put them there. They might as well wear jackets like NASCAR drivers do with all the damn sponsors all over it. At least them we know who they REALLY represent ......because John Q. Public sure as hell isn't one of them. The more money they get from a sponsor the bigger the patch....you will see then who these folks really answer to!!!!! Pure genius! I called it long ago. Trump's biggest problem won't be the left or the media, it's the GOP. That party is full of assbags that need to get primaried out. I still haven't seen a list of the republicans defending Obamacare. It needs to be published with the same ruthless repetition that the russia hoax received. Send those dirt bags home to their voters and have them face the music. This BS of "Put us in power and we'll fix it" and being met with new excuses has reached a cliff. Now it's time to purge. Why nobody can't simply walk to the podium and point out that premiums are exceeding deductibles by 300-600% is beyond me. Health insurance itself has become the financial disaster it was originally designed to prevent.
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Post by chummer16 on Jul 18, 2017 14:36:38 GMT -6
Average net worth of each Senator...9 million. All your answers reside in that number.
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Post by jbird on Jul 18, 2017 15:55:00 GMT -6
Look at the financial history and rap sheet of those sitting in the Senate and Congress right now and then wonder why things are so fucked up? Well, you don't hire a thief to run the cash register if ya know what I mean! The bad thing is that we don't have "good" people to vote for.....most of them are so damn crooked it isn't funny and you only vote for the one you think will fuck it up the least!!!!
I LOVE my country.....but I certainly do NOT trust my government!!!!
In GOD we trust.....nobody said shit about trusting Uncle Sam!!!!
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Post by buckvelvet on Jul 19, 2017 7:35:11 GMT -6
Look at the financial history and rap sheet of those sitting in the Senate and Congress right now and then wonder why things are so fucked up? Well, you don't hire a thief to run the cash register if ya know what I mean! The bad thing is that we don't have "good" people to vote for.....most of them are so damn crooked it isn't funny and you only vote for the one you think will fuck it up the least!!!! I LOVE my country.....but I certainly do NOT trust my government!!!! In GOD we trust.....nobody said shit about trusting Uncle Sam!!!! Totally off the subject but I love your signature.
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Post by Freeborn on Jul 19, 2017 7:54:28 GMT -6
We need term limits and laws that stop politicians from working for the companies that lobbied them (Paid them off) in the past.
Its a mess, no doubt about it.
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Post by Foggy on Jul 19, 2017 10:36:37 GMT -6
^ Sounds like there are some GOP supporters that are going to fund campaigns for those congressmen that vote against repealing O'bammy care. I hope so! We gotta put this charade behind us.
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Post by Sandbur on Jul 21, 2017 3:39:07 GMT -6
When I listen tot he radio, I constantly her how so many people will lose health care under this or that plan. There is no discussion about how we will pay for coverage for people in the future. It has become just another freebie to many in our country. And yes, I am waiting for Medicare.
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Post by Freeborn on Jul 21, 2017 7:08:29 GMT -6
When I listen tot he radio, I constantly her how so many people will lose health care under this or that plan. There is no discussion about how we will pay for coverage for people in the future. It has become just another freebie to many in our country. And yes, I am waiting for Medicare. Spot on Art, its a decision made for political reasons and not for what's in the interest of the people/country.
Allot of wealth is sucked out of the economy and peoples pockets and much of it goes to 1% of the country. I'm a free market guy and believe capitalism is the best path to prosperity but healthcare is bastardized version of a market that does not work.
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Post by sd51555 on Jul 21, 2017 10:12:20 GMT -6
When I listen tot he radio, I constantly her how so many people will lose health care under this or that plan. There is no discussion about how we will pay for coverage for people in the future. It has become just another freebie to many in our country. And yes, I am waiting for Medicare. It has nothing to do with health care. If this piece of crap was scored on the availability of care to the average American (non-medicaid) it would fail. There is no money left after the bloated premiums are paid to float any out of pocket. All this did was drive a ton of oblivious and healthy poor people into medicaid. Those on the bubble that screw up and try to earn their own way to take care of themselves get booted from medicaid because they earned a few thousand too much, and all of a sudden they are out on the curb having to pay cash for all their care. They may get a subsidy for the insurance, but that doesn't do shit for their out of pocket. Then little things go untreated and balloon into big things. You have to keep in mind, every time democrats don't get they want, the first thing they do is run to the podium and make dire predictions about the millions that will die if it doesn't happen. Insert any of their issues. Abortion access, millions will die in coat hanger back alley procedures. School lunch program, millions will die of starvation. Immigration, millions will die if we build a wall. Law enforcement, if we police neighborhoods with competent cops, millions will die when they point weapons at police. Global warming, if we don't pass a global carbon tax, millions will be burned to death by the scorching fury of the sun, or drown when the ice caps melt. Mass transit, if we don't have trains to everywhere, nobody will have jobs and die. Rural internet, if we don't have fiber optic to Grand Portage, everyone will die because they can't stream HD porn.
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Post by Foggy on Jul 21, 2017 10:17:22 GMT -6
Seems like its impossible to take back any "entitlements" that have been offered by our lawmakers. It does not matter that these things are not affordable or in our budget.....once people get something for FREE or subsidized by our government.....it's near impossible to revert.
One thing seems certain....is that some type of Government sponsored health care is in our future. Most of us just lack the ability to pay for it.
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Post by sd51555 on Jul 21, 2017 10:23:19 GMT -6
It was two years ago that the libs were already setting up the narrative to eliminate the insurance industry completely. Ocare was designed to place care so far out of reach that the public would demand single payer vs the mega-premium/no coverage policies they were stuck with. None of them planned on Hillary losing. Not one of the past 4 presidential elections were supposed to be even close. Kerry, McCain, Romney, and whomever the GOP picked in '16 were never supposed to even get close. Then Trump happened.
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Post by jbird on Jul 21, 2017 15:03:41 GMT -6
What happened to "don't feed the bears" ? Damn government is tossing food out the window like crazy and forcing us to pay for it..... Awe, look at the hungry little unemployed, crack-head.....lets feed him....clothe him and give him a place to stay....take care of him when he is sick....he's so cute! Then the next thing ya know you can't get rid of the piece of shit and they won't leave you alone, breaking shit, tearing the place up, and they sure can't survive on their own..... Yep - real good idea!!!!! Can we relocate them like they do "problem bears" ?? I'm thinking Canada....they seem to be more on the socialist side of the coin!
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