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Post by smsmith on Oct 7, 2021 13:12:20 GMT -6
I believe Bill Mayo stated it was good to -32 because at the time he scammed Stark Bros into buying F.C. that was the lowest temp his orchard had experienced.
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Post by chummer16 on Oct 7, 2021 15:56:03 GMT -6
I can say it is good below -32 I can also say it is highly susceptible to FB. Tree is great other than that. I don’t know about fresh eating either. I will try one again this weekend.
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Post by kabic on Oct 8, 2021 10:35:16 GMT -6
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Post by nhmountains on Oct 8, 2021 17:23:18 GMT -6
I believe Bill Mayo stated it was good to -32 because at the time he scammed Stark Bros into buying F.C. that was the lowest temp his orchard had experienced. Maya and Mayo disappeared from what I can see. Although I spoke to the Vt orchard guru near me last year and he’d never had fire blight in his orchard in close to 40 years so maybe there’s something in the Vermont soils?? He has over 100 varieties as well as lots of pears so I’d think he’d have had it. What could prevent it? I’ve seen it on my father inlaw’s tree a few years ago snd we’re less that 5 miles from that guy.
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Post by smsmith on Oct 9, 2021 7:56:31 GMT -6
I believe Bill Mayo stated it was good to -32 because at the time he scammed Stark Bros into buying F.C. that was the lowest temp his orchard had experienced. Maya and Mayo disappeared from what I can see. Although I spoke to the Vt orchard guru near me last year and he’d never had fire blight in his orchard in close to 40 years so maybe there’s something in the Vermont soils?? He has over 100 varieties as well as lots of pears so I’d think he’d have had it. What could prevent it? I’ve seen it on my father inlaw’s tree a few years ago snd we’re less that 5 miles from that guy. I know maya has dealt with fire blight in his orchards. I don't know how far his land is from Bill's however. I had assumed not that far, but I could be wrong. Since both guys are growing on a commercial scale, I'd imagine they are spraying preventatively for fb. I hit my trees with copper in the spring to help against fb, but only once. I'd guess commercial orchards are spraying multiple times with multiple chems. Bill could also be growing orchards full of varieties not susceptible to fb...
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Post by chummer16 on Oct 10, 2021 11:56:53 GMT -6
Not as bad this time. Didn’t have to spit it out.
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Post by buckvelvet on Jan 6, 2022 14:37:03 GMT -6
It's not funny, but sure is irony. I have sort of been 'out' of the apple game for 2 years. Personal life and shit taken be damned...
I never did graft a franklin cider at that Orchard I was crafting, to bad. LOL...
My home Orchard doesn't have 1 either but I don't have room for a lot either.
Odd that those 2 shutup about Franklin Cider anymore though ah Stu?
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Post by benmnwi on Dec 7, 2022 18:55:40 GMT -6
No pictures tonight since I was on a buckthorn killing mission, but I have a number of franklins that are still holding their fruit. The apples didn’t look too appealing for fresh eating since I didn’t spray them and disease and bugs seem to impact them, but they produced a decent amount of fruit that is still holding strong.
This is the first year I’ve had fair crops on multiple Franklin trees and they seem like a decent late season deer option here. Honey gold is another tree that is still holding a lot of apples here, but these trees are all close to my house and I’m guessing raccoon damage pulled off most of the apples farther back closer to my tree stands.
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Post by smsmith on Dec 7, 2022 19:21:56 GMT -6
No pictures tonight since I was on a buckthorn killing mission, but I have a number of franklins that are still holding their fruit. The apples didn’t look too appealing for fresh eating since I didn’t spray them and disease and bugs seem to impact them, but they produced a decent amount of fruit that is still holding strong. This is the first year I’ve had fair crops on multiple Franklin trees and they seem like a decent late season deer option here. Honey gold is another tree that is still holding a lot of apples here, but these trees are all close to my house and I’m guessing raccoon damage pulled off most of the apples farther back closer to my tree stands. That's good to hear about the Franklins. I'm expecting at least a few fruit on my two trees next year. I'm not a hard cider guy, so the critters will be getting most all Franklin fruit.
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Post by benmnwi on Dec 7, 2022 19:44:36 GMT -6
No pictures tonight since I was on a buckthorn killing mission, but I have a number of franklins that are still holding their fruit. The apples didn’t look too appealing for fresh eating since I didn’t spray them and disease and bugs seem to impact them, but they produced a decent amount of fruit that is still holding strong. This is the first year I’ve had fair crops on multiple Franklin trees and they seem like a decent late season deer option here. Honey gold is another tree that is still holding a lot of apples here, but these trees are all close to my house and I’m guessing raccoon damage pulled off most of the apples farther back closer to my tree stands. That's good to hear about the Franklins. I'm expecting at least a few fruit on my two trees next year. I'm not a hard cider guy, so the critters will be getting most all Franklin fruit. I think it might be a decent late season option based on this year’s crop. Time will tell how it compares to other varieties, but they seem to have above average growth and fruit for their age
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Post by smallchunk on Feb 18, 2023 9:07:24 GMT -6
I was stupid and transplanted the Franklin that I had bought from my grandmas and put it in the backyard at my new place thinking I would make a bunch of cider. My son absolutely loves going out back and eating apples, and these are not eaters lol. It will be getting top worked this spring.
It did have a couple of dozen apples on it this fall. I stripped about a dozen for shits and gigs before heading to the stand one night and flung them out in the food plot on the way to my stand. Sure as shit from 100 yards away I watched two does find them and search the rest of the night for more of them haha. Probably a good deer apple!
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Post by benmnwi on Feb 18, 2023 11:12:01 GMT -6
My franklins all dropped their fruit in the past 3 weeks, so they are a solid late season food source here. Just need them to hurry up and grow huge.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 3, 2023 18:08:36 GMT -6
So would you guys who've had Franklin Cider's produce fruit say they are apples or crabapples?
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Post by benmnwi on Apr 3, 2023 19:18:20 GMT -6
I’d call them crabapples. The fruit on my trees has been about ping ping ball sized.
Maybe thinning them would improve the size though.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 4, 2023 7:29:10 GMT -6
I asked some fruit geeks about Franklin cider's size too. So far one guy said it's definitely a crab and another says his run around 2.5"...so not a crab.
I'll be interested to see what happens with mine.
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