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Post by jbird on Jul 20, 2018 10:12:14 GMT -6
This info makes me feel a little more confident in having some logging done. Now I just need to find someone who will take all the trees and not just the oaks. I'm sure there will be some problems along the way, but at the end of the day I should have better hunting after logging than I currently have. More importantly that better hunting should come at the time when my kids start hunting. The trick around here is having enough of the marketable saw timber to interest a logger into taking the other "junk" stuff as well. When I had my "junk" trees cut I simply wanted to break even (I didn't tell the logger that) after they took all the junk and fixed the trails and installed the culverts and the like. I figured the habitat improvement, timber stand improvement and overall habitat improvement would all be worth the effort. I was pleasantly surprised with a nice check when it was all said and done as well! But we did cut roughly 600 trees!
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Post by snowracerh on Jul 20, 2018 10:16:42 GMT -6
Mostly aspen, ash, bitch, maple. Small amount of poor basswood and oak. Mostly pulp with 10% or so being saw logs Just having a bit of fun.....but what does a "Bitch" tree look like? I have had a few that turned into a bitch tree as they fell into another tree before, but they didn't start out that way! Haha, birch tree was what I meant!
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Post by snowracerh on Jul 20, 2018 10:18:12 GMT -6
This info makes me feel a little more confident in having some logging done. Now I just need to find someone who will take all the trees and not just the oaks. I'm sure there will be some problems along the way, but at the end of the day I should have better hunting after logging than I currently have. More importantly that better hunting should come at the time when my kids start hunting. I heard years 3 to 10 after logging will be the best hunting and deer patterns will shift a bit the first several years as the regrowth develops
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Nov 20, 2018 16:05:59 GMT -6
Post by Bwoods11 on Nov 20, 2018 16:05:59 GMT -6
Is anyone doing any winter logging projects?
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Post by snowracerh on Nov 20, 2018 16:43:19 GMT -6
Just cleanup from summer logging. Trying to cut any remaing junk that was left behind so better stuff can grow and get more sunlight to the ground.
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Post by Sandbur on Nov 20, 2018 19:02:16 GMT -6
Is anyone doing any winter logging projects? I just set up an appointment with a consulting forester who is also an avid deer hunter. Probably a harvest in the future.
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Post by Foggy on Nov 21, 2018 10:07:51 GMT -6
Is anyone doing any winter logging projects? I just set up an appointment with a consulting forester who is also an avid deer hunter. Probably a harvest in the future. Art, For your north Sandbox?
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Nov 21, 2018 10:12:33 GMT -6
Post by Foggy on Nov 21, 2018 10:12:33 GMT -6
I logged two years ago. We had allot of deer over summer......but this fall the deer hunt turned sour. Just did not have allot of deer on my land. But that seemed to be the case everywhere in my zone this year. The deer were locked down and not many were taken. I think my lack of good food plots also had some to do with our success this year. Next year I will plant more brassica and less beans (the beans are fine in the summer.....but by hunting season they are gone....and the turkeys clean up what ever is left). I'm hoping that my land "thickens up" a bit more this year......as I get into the third year after logging. We do have allot of small bucks.......maybe the lack of success on shooting them this year will prove to get a big year next season. One can hope! . FORE! Note: My forester set up a plan where the logger could harvest Red Pine, Jack Pine and Aspen - all in select areas and not within xx feet of the property lines, etc. We also left a few pockets of pines to provide some shelter and screening. We left all the Oak trees and the Birch trees and smaller pines and aspen in tact where possible. I had quite a few of these trees scattered about the property. 'm hoping the regen comes back sooner....but it does take a little time. Some areas are currently doing pretty well....and other areas are a bit weak yet. Hard to have patience on the re-growth.
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Nov 21, 2018 12:36:39 GMT -6
Post by sd51555 on Nov 21, 2018 12:36:39 GMT -6
I logged two years ago. We had allot of deer over summer......but this fall the deer hunt turned sour. Just did not have allot of deer on my land. But that seemed to be the case everywhere in my zone this year. The deer were locked down and not many were taken. I think my lack of good food plots also had some to do with our success this year. Next year I will plant more brassica and less beans (the beans are fine in the summer.....but by hunting season they are gone....and the turkeys clean up what ever is left). I'm hoping that my land "thickens up" a bit more this year......as I get into the third year after logging. We do have allot of small bucks.......maybe the lack of success on shooting them this year will prove to get a big year next season. One can hope! . FORE! Note: My forester set up a plan where the logger could harvest Red Pine, Jack Pine and Aspen - all in select areas and not within xx feet of the property lines, etc. We also left a few pockets of pines to provide some shelter and screening. We left all the Oak trees and the Birch trees and smaller pines and aspen in tact where possible. I had quite a few of these trees scattered about the property. 'm hoping the regen comes back sooner....but it does take a little time. Some areas are currently doing pretty well....and other areas are a bit weak yet. Hard to have patience on the re-growth. Why did you spare your birch?
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Post by Foggy on Nov 21, 2018 12:48:49 GMT -6
I logged two years ago. We had allot of deer over summer......but this fall the deer hunt turned sour. Just did not have allot of deer on my land. But that seemed to be the case everywhere in my zone this year. The deer were locked down and not many were taken. I think my lack of good food plots also had some to do with our success this year. Next year I will plant more brassica and less beans (the beans are fine in the summer.....but by hunting season they are gone....and the turkeys clean up what ever is left). I'm hoping that my land "thickens up" a bit more this year......as I get into the third year after logging. We do have allot of small bucks.......maybe the lack of success on shooting them this year will prove to get a big year next season. One can hope! . FORE! Note: My forester set up a plan where the logger could harvest Red Pine, Jack Pine and Aspen - all in select areas and not within xx feet of the property lines, etc. We also left a few pockets of pines to provide some shelter and screening. We left all the Oak trees and the Birch trees and smaller pines and aspen in tact where possible. I had quite a few of these trees scattered about the property. 'm hoping the regen comes back sooner....but it does take a little time. Some areas are currently doing pretty well....and other areas are a bit weak yet. Hard to have patience on the re-growth. Why did you spare your birch? First....I don't have much birch.....and I like it. Mixes well with my oaks....does not shade too badly around food plots. Also the buds are ok for grouse and deer.....and it makes great firewood.
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Nov 21, 2018 14:56:15 GMT -6
Post by Bwoods11 on Nov 21, 2018 14:56:15 GMT -6
I am going to take out some aspen and ash in one area, to create new growth, and make a trail in/out...
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Nov 21, 2018 15:43:27 GMT -6
Post by Freeborn on Nov 21, 2018 15:43:27 GMT -6
I am going to take out some aspen and ash in one area, to create new growth, and make a trail in/out... Are you logging or bulldozing an area? I don't think I could get a logger interested in my Aspen as I don't have enough tonnage.
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Nov 21, 2018 16:23:26 GMT -6
Post by Foggy on Nov 21, 2018 16:23:26 GMT -6
I was recently told the timber market was currently in the dumps as the Canadian timber companies were hauling into the USA mills.....and undercutting the USA loggers. Not sure if it's the dollar or what drives this. (I.e. pulp vs building materials....not sure. But I dont think their is much market for pulp these days....as paper usage is down.).
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Post by sd51555 on Nov 21, 2018 21:24:39 GMT -6
Why did you spare your birch? First....I don't have much birch.....and I like it. Mixes well with my oaks....does not shade too badly around food plots. Also the buds are ok for grouse and deer.....and it makes great firewood. I agree with all those things except the firewood. I haven't used it for firewood. I am slowly trying to build up my birch stockpile. I've never seen something so popular once it's cut down. That might be the ticket to a December bow kill. Would it be unethical to make a pile of cut birch tops within bow range of a blind? Couple years back, I knocked a few down that were in the way or progress and I piled them up and put a cam on them. Deer worked them every day for a month.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Nov 21, 2018 21:31:12 GMT -6
I am going to take out some aspen and ash in one area, to create new growth, and make a trail in/out... Are you logging or bulldozing an area? I don't think I could get a logger interested in my Aspen as I don't have enough tonnage. Logging... local guy will take out smaller areas and hauls it to mill in Long Prairie I don’t expect to make much $$$, but it will help my habitat
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