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Post by sd51555 on Jul 31, 2018 12:37:04 GMT -6
Beings there will never ever be red osier dogwood plugs ever again, I'm considering getting some bare root RODs from Coldstream next year. I wonder what size I should try to get? I want one big enough it'll live, but small enough I can still get the roots down with a dibble bar.
Anyone ever buy something like that from them? Their serviceberry seedlings were tremendously smaller than the lower limit of their size range when I ordered them both times. I've had lone pubes that were more fibrous than the entire root system on those seedlings.
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Post by badbrad on Jul 31, 2018 12:46:13 GMT -6
Beings there will never ever be red osier dogwood plugs ever again, I'm considering getting some bare root RODs from Coldstream next year. I wonder what size I should try to get? I want one big enough it'll live, but small enough I can still get the roots down with a dibble bar. Anyone ever buy something like that from them? Their serviceberry seedlings were tremendously smaller than the lower limit of their size range when I ordered them both times. I've had lone pubes that were more fibrous than the entire root system on those seedlings.  |
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Post by Tooln on Jul 31, 2018 14:23:19 GMT -6
Never planting another tree sure didn't last long. Or do you consider a shrub a different category.
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Post by Sandbur on Jul 31, 2018 15:37:47 GMT -6
Never planting another tree sure didn't last long. Or do you consider a shrub a different category. Temporary insanity is the proper name! |
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Post by sd51555 on Jul 31, 2018 17:33:31 GMT -6
Never planting another tree sure didn't last long. Or do you consider a shrub a different category. I go back and forth. |
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Post by wisco on Aug 1, 2018 6:35:40 GMT -6
I've had good luck with the state nursery and Laura's Lane Nursery in Plainfield, WI, but no matter what I get from any source there is usually something that is way bigger or smaller than specified size, and even if all that matches, the root size can be a crap shoot. I planted a bunch of RO dogwood around my house 4 years ago and some of that is huge now. They produce a ton of berries and the birds eat them like crazy. I'm hoping when they crap them out on my property I'll get a nice spread of work free brush. I'm going to harvest the next crop and spread those myself to see if I get decent recruitment.
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 1, 2018 6:53:47 GMT -6
I've had good luck with the state nursery and Laura's Lane Nursery in Plainfield, WI, but no matter what I get from any source there is usually something that is way bigger or smaller than specified size, and even if all that matches, the root size can be a crap shoot. I planted a bunch of RO dogwood around my house 4 years ago and some of that is huge now. They produce a ton of berries and the birds eat them like crazy. I'm hoping when they crap them out on my property I'll get a nice spread of work free brush. I'm going to harvest the next crop and spread those myself to see if I get decent recruitment. That’s the same system I’m hoping for. I wanna plant around a 100 of them in a 7.5’ high 25’x25’ enclosure. If I can get my brush/tree clearing going this winter, I want that enclosure to serve as a hub and spoke system for birds to carry them seeds out and drop them in my cleared spots. |
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Post by nhmountains on Aug 1, 2018 8:04:35 GMT -6
SD,
Can't dogwood be propagated by cuttings?
I'd think about 2-3 smaller 8x10 enclosures instead of the larger one. I'm just going by my experience with blackberry patches. 8x10' is a good size.
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 1, 2018 8:51:02 GMT -6
SD, Can't dogwood be propagated by cuttings? I'd think about 2-3 smaller 8x10 enclosures instead of the larger one. I'm just going by my experience with blackberry patches. 8x10' is a good size. Yeah u can. That could make that process a lot easier too, I would just need to remember to source the cuttings on time and get them cut and waxed shut until planting time. I got a really good initial survival with those I did in the pots. |
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Post by wisco on Aug 1, 2018 11:30:54 GMT -6
sd, can you explain the waxed shut process for cuttings? I've done live staking with some rooting hormone in the spring, but never did any waxing, how does that process work?
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 1, 2018 11:39:29 GMT -6
sd, can you explain the waxed shut process for cuttings? I've done live staking with some rooting hormone in the spring, but never did any waxing, how does that process work? NHmountains May be a better dude to explain than me. My understanding is when he takes his cuttings, he’ll dip the cuts in wax to keep them from drying out, and then store in the fridge from there to planting time. |
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Post by nhmountains on Aug 1, 2018 13:07:37 GMT -6
sd, can you explain the waxed shut process for cuttings? I've done live staking with some rooting hormone in the spring, but never did any waxing, how does that process work? NHmountains May be a better dude to explain than me. My understanding is when he takes his cuttings, he’ll dip the cuts in wax to keep them from drying out, and then store in the fridge from there to planting time. Yes, that's what I've been doing for apple scions. They stay better hydrated that way. I'd say you get at least another month or two of storage. I use a mixture of 50/50 paraffin and beeswax. Melt it in a tin can double boiler and just dip them in. |
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Post by wisco on Aug 2, 2018 6:47:45 GMT -6
NHmountains May be a better dude to explain than me. My understanding is when he takes his cuttings, he’ll dip the cuts in wax to keep them from drying out, and then store in the fridge from there to planting time. Yes, that's what I've been doing for apple scions. They stay better hydrated that way. I'd say you get at least another month or two of storage. I use a mixture of 50/50 paraffin and beeswax. Melt it in a tin can double boiler and just dip them in. Then store them in the fridge until ready to plant? when do you take your cuttings or does that matter much? I appreciate the info, I'd like to try this. |
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Post by nhmountains on Aug 2, 2018 8:24:16 GMT -6
Wisco,
I'm not sure on the dogwood cuttings. I don't have any. I get the apple scions in February and March. They lasted into late June.
I put them in a large ziploc with a moist paper towel at the end where the opening is. I don't zip it shut. I'd imagine that the other cuttings would be the same.
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Post by snowracerh on Apr 3, 2020 18:13:54 GMT -6
Is there anyone near Dunn county, WI willing to spare me some red osier dogwood cuttings or know of a public place i could find them? Have a low wet area i would like to propogate it on. Id but you a case of beer of your choice!!
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