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Post by batman on Mar 28, 2019 17:17:54 GMT -6
Is it still relaxing when the guns start blazing opening morning of gun season? It is somewhat relaxing and by the third day it is very enjoyable. By the third day of MN's rifle we have been tagged out for a week. Unless the commissioner changes the season dates.
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Post by biglakebass on Mar 28, 2019 17:19:32 GMT -6
Is it still relaxing when the guns start blazing opening morning of gun season? It is somewhat relaxing and by the third day it is very enjoyable. 3rd day I am done because everything thats left is nocturnal. LOLLLL
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Post by sd51555 on Mar 28, 2019 18:39:19 GMT -6
SD, How many hours have you hunted your place without having an opportunity to kill a deer? Is there a deer farm anywhere that would require the same amount of hunting hours for a shot opportunity? Your friend has no idea what he is talking about. More than I care to dwell on, that's fur sure. I'm not saying he's right, or anyone else is wrong. Just wonder where that line is. I bet every guy holding a tag will have a different perspective on where that wild/not wild line sits. I fear this conversation is just around the corner in MN.
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Post by Catscratch on Mar 28, 2019 19:13:07 GMT -6
The line between wild and not wild is divided at the corn pile here. If ya ever go to the Kansas forum on Bowsite and read a few threads you'll see tons of hate for baiters. Many locals claim deer simply must come to corn, they instantly become livestock or pets if you dump a bag. People post that they can't hunt their own land because neighbors bait. It's a fairly heated topic that I think is somewhat similar to the original post in the scope of things. Food plots and habitat work seem to fall somewhere in between corn and doing nothing.
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Post by batman on Mar 28, 2019 20:23:32 GMT -6
The line between wild and not wild is divided at the corn pile here. If ya ever go to the Kansas forum on Bowsite and read a few threads you'll see tons of hate for baiters. Many locals claim deer simply must come to corn, they instantly become livestock or pets if you dump a bag. People post that they can't hunt their own land because neighbors bait. It's a fairly heated topic that I think is somewhat similar to the original post in the scope of things. Food plots and habitat work seem to fall somewhere in between corn and doing nothing. the power of corn is wholly underated.
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Post by Tooln on Mar 28, 2019 21:18:59 GMT -6
Like above it's not all about the deer. For me it's therapy. I can spend all day working in the plot or trails and I feel more relaxed and rested. Spend 9 hour behind the clock and it a whole different story. Is it still relaxing when the guns start blazing opening morning of gun season? Gave up rifle hunting years ago. Bow only for me.
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Post by Sandbur on Mar 28, 2019 22:00:20 GMT -6
Twenty years ago, I was an avid bow hunter. The last five years, I have mainly just bowhunted around Halloween. I haven’t shot at a deer but just like to watch them.
Rifle season is what I have liked best in this time period.
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Post by batman on Mar 29, 2019 6:27:48 GMT -6
I like July the best. All the horn growing months are cool but July you can almost watch them grow.
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Post by nhmountains on Mar 30, 2019 3:58:30 GMT -6
I was having a talk with a friend of mine from back home this morning. He hunts primarily public ground, and some very limited private ground with permission. He doesn't enter the realm of extreme habitat manipulation, or even food plots. He made a comment I thought was very interesting, and quite possibly very accurate. Here's what he said: "Land owners doing this extreme habitat stuff are just deer farms without a fence." Have we blurred the lines that far with timber manipulation, orchards, NWSG, conifers, plot exclusions, barricades and mega-sized corn plots in the woods? From a guy's perspective like that, I can absolutely see where he's coming from. I know I have blood on my hands with what I have done with gypsum, clover, and small grains research. I have the same guilt as the guy that created the Kuerig. Viewing a few forums in the northeast there’s a push for having landowners who receive tax breaks or government subsidies to have their land open for hunting to all. That group is mainly trackers who want to be able to continue tracking a deer they’re following but, they despise food plots as well.
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Post by nhmountains on Mar 30, 2019 4:01:15 GMT -6
The line between wild and not wild is divided at the corn pile here. If ya ever go to the Kansas forum on Bowsite and read a few threads you'll see tons of hate for baiters. Many locals claim deer simply must come to corn, they instantly become livestock or pets if you dump a bag. People post that they can't hunt their own land because neighbors bait. It's a fairly heated topic that I think is somewhat similar to the original post in the scope of things. Food plots and habitat work seem to fall somewhere in between corn and doing nothing. Is the baiting something new there in Kansas? I never would’ve guessed it. Do the outfitters bait?
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Post by Sandbur on Mar 30, 2019 4:20:32 GMT -6
I was having a talk with a friend of mine from back home this morning. He hunts primarily public ground, and some very limited private ground with permission. He doesn't enter the realm of extreme habitat manipulation, or even food plots. He made a comment I thought was very interesting, and quite possibly very accurate. Here's what he said: "Land owners doing this extreme habitat stuff are just deer farms without a fence." Have we blurred the lines that far with timber manipulation, orchards, NWSG, conifers, plot exclusions, barricades and mega-sized corn plots in the woods? From a guy's perspective like that, I can absolutely see where he's coming from. I know I have blood on my hands with what I have done with gypsum, clover, and small grains research. I have the same guilt as the guy that created the Kuerig. Viewing a few forums in the northeast there’s a push for having landowners who receive tax breaks or government subsidies to have their land open for hunting to all. That group is mainly trackers who want to be able to continue tracking a deer they’re following but, they despise food plots as well. Are the paper and timber companies in the northeast selling their lands to private individuals? That has happened in Minnesota. Much was converted to irrigated potato ground in some areas.
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Post by nhmountains on Mar 30, 2019 5:39:54 GMT -6
Viewing a few forums in the northeast there’s a push for having landowners who receive tax breaks or government subsidies to have their land open for hunting to all. That group is mainly trackers who want to be able to continue tracking a deer they’re following but, they despise food plots as well. Are the paper and timber companies in the northeast selling their lands to private individuals? That has happened in Minnesota. Much was converted to irrigated potato ground in some areas. I’m not sure Art. I know about 20 years ago that some guys bought a block up in Maine from a timber company. What did happen in Maine was a woman named Roxanne Quincy bought up 88,000 acres and was going to block hunters. She founded the Burt’s Bees lip balm and hand cream company. There was a huge backlash on that in Maine. They changed the designation to a national monument so I believe they do allow hunting.
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Post by Catscratch on Mar 30, 2019 5:56:35 GMT -6
The line between wild and not wild is divided at the corn pile here. If ya ever go to the Kansas forum on Bowsite and read a few threads you'll see tons of hate for baiters. Many locals claim deer simply must come to corn, they instantly become livestock or pets if you dump a bag. People post that they can't hunt their own land because neighbors bait. It's a fairly heated topic that I think is somewhat similar to the original post in the scope of things. Food plots and habitat work seem to fall somewhere in between corn and doing nothing. Is the baiting something new there in Kansas? I never would’ve guessed it. Do the outfitters bait? When I was a kid it never occurred to me that you could bait... I had never heard of it or known anyone who did it (never heard of an outfitter either). I'm not sure when it became a thing here but I think it was around the time KS opened the boarders, which is also about the time that internet and hunting shows became popular. It's very common now, you can't go to Walmart in the fall without seeing guys in camo pushing around carts full of corn or finding feed bags in all the highway ditches. Lots of outfitters bait. Not all of them but it's pretty easy to find outfitters who boast of how much corn they put out a season.
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Post by nhmountains on Mar 30, 2019 6:53:51 GMT -6
Is the baiting something new there in Kansas? I never would’ve guessed it. Do the outfitters bait? When I was a kid it never occurred to me that you could bait... I had never heard of it or known anyone who did it (never heard of an outfitter either). I'm not sure when it became a thing here but I think it was around the time KS opened the boarders, which is also about the time that internet and hunting shows became popular. It's very common now, you can't go to Walmart in the fall without seeing guys in camo pushing around carts full of corn or finding feed bags in all the highway ditches. Lots of outfitters bait. Not all of them but it's pretty easy to find outfitters who boast of how much corn they put out a season. Same here in the northeast. I never knew about baiting except maybe a few apples here or there but, it became an issue here in the last 10 years. Vermont banned baiting for deer and bear a few years ago. It didn’t effect their deer or bear kill numbers. I’d have thought it would’ve lowered the bear but, it didn’t. NH now has a baiting season for deer. When you register your kill you have to specify if you baited. They don’t publish the bait kill numbers for deer. They do for bear.
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