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Post by badbrad on Jul 17, 2019 9:57:49 GMT -6
I'm considering selling it since I don't think I will be using much anymore due to the Ag lime not being what I should be putting down (gee thanks SD). I think its a Gandy. Or at least Foggy thought it was a Gandy. PM me if interested. I'm not desperate to sell it but its just taking up room in the shed. Or Tell me I'm dumb to sell it and talk me out of it.   |
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Post by benmnwi on Jul 17, 2019 10:45:56 GMT -6
What type of lime should you be using? Is there a chance that you could buy that type of lime in bulk sometime in the future? Those nice lime spreaders are hard to find, so I'd be hesitant to give it up.
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Post by sd51555 on Jul 17, 2019 10:48:16 GMT -6
What are you going to use to spread the right lime?
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Post by badbrad on Jul 17, 2019 10:51:43 GMT -6
What type of lime should you be using? Is there a chance that you could buy that type of lime in bulk sometime in the future? Those nice lime spreaders are hard to find, so I'd be hesitant to give it up. SD says I should be using calicum based lime such as the menards shit. Doubtful any bulk calicum based lime will be available in the area. |
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Post by badbrad on Jul 17, 2019 10:54:55 GMT -6
What are you going to use to spread the right lime? Same thing I just did. Pellet lime and cone spreader  |
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Post by benmnwi on Jul 17, 2019 11:06:07 GMT -6
Do you have any paper mills in your area that spread the paper mill sludge that raises the pH? This is kind of outside of what you are talking about, but that's a great way to get your pH raised for free if they offer it in your area. I had about 35 acres of fields/plots in Rusk County WI treated with that spitwad looking stuff and it raised the pH and organic matter for free. I guess it's cheaper for the paper mills to spread it on fields or they have to pay to have it taken to a landfill. The DNR verifies that the correct amount is spread in the correct locations so it doesn't negatively impact the soil or water.
Back to your lime spreader - I'd keep it since some of the cheap calcium lime is in powder form.
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Post by sd51555 on Jul 17, 2019 11:16:26 GMT -6
What are you going to use to spread the right lime? Same thing I just did. Pellet lime and cone spreader Forgot about that thing. Good good. |
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Post by badbrad on Jul 17, 2019 11:41:32 GMT -6
Do you have any paper mills in your area that spread the paper mill sludge that raises the pH? This is kind of outside of what you are talking about, but that's a great way to get your pH raised for free if they offer it in your area. I had about 35 acres of fields/plots in Rusk County WI treated with that spitwad looking stuff and it raised the pH and organic matter for free. I guess it's cheaper for the paper mills to spread it on fields or they have to pay to have it taken to a landfill. The DNR verifies that the correct amount is spread in the correct locations so it doesn't negatively impact the soil or water. Back to your lime spreader - I'd keep it since some of the cheap calcium lime is in powder form. From where ? |
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Post by sd51555 on Jul 17, 2019 11:47:24 GMT -6
Do you have any paper mills in your area that spread the paper mill sludge that raises the pH? This is kind of outside of what you are talking about, but that's a great way to get your pH raised for free if they offer it in your area. I had about 35 acres of fields/plots in Rusk County WI treated with that spitwad looking stuff and it raised the pH and organic matter for free. I guess it's cheaper for the paper mills to spread it on fields or they have to pay to have it taken to a landfill. The DNR verifies that the correct amount is spread in the correct locations so it doesn't negatively impact the soil or water. Back to your lime spreader - I'd keep it since some of the cheap calcium lime is in powder form. Yes it is, and right in his back yard. I might still pay the premium for Menards pell anyway. The particle size on the Dairy White makes only about half the content effective for soil neutralizing. The other half is big chips to keep the girls from slippin in the shit.  |
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Post by badbrad on Jul 17, 2019 11:50:45 GMT -6
Do you have any paper mills in your area that spread the paper mill sludge that raises the pH? This is kind of outside of what you are talking about, but that's a great way to get your pH raised for free if they offer it in your area. I had about 35 acres of fields/plots in Rusk County WI treated with that spitwad looking stuff and it raised the pH and organic matter for free. I guess it's cheaper for the paper mills to spread it on fields or they have to pay to have it taken to a landfill. The DNR verifies that the correct amount is spread in the correct locations so it doesn't negatively impact the soil or water. Back to your lime spreader - I'd keep it since some of the cheap calcium lime is in powder form. Yes it is, and right in his back yard. I might still pay the premium for Menards pell anyway. The particle size on the Dairy White makes only about half the content effective for soil neutralizing. The other half is big chips to keep the girls from slippin in the shit. Looks about the same price as menards pellet lime anyway. |
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Post by benmnwi on Jul 17, 2019 12:14:57 GMT -6
The farmer renting my tillable land told me about the program and there was a local contractor paid to spread the stuff on landowners fields at no charge. After I gave the farmer the green light, the DNR then called me to tell me about the program and verify that I gave the farmer approval to have the stuff spread on my land. It was paper mill sludge that looks like spitwads and it acts like lime while adding organic matter. My pH is actually slightly above 7.0 there in the areas that I had it spread a couple years ago. dnr.wi.gov/staffdir/_newsearch/contactsearchext.aspx?exp=Beneficial+Use+of+Industrial+ByproductsIf you look at that link you should be able to call the DNR person in charge of your county and ask them if they have a similar program in your area for paper mill sludge that raises soil pH. The majority of the farmers in my area use that stuff to raise the pH instead of lime. If you ever see a field that is light gray covered with a 1/2" layer of spitwad looking stuff, that's it. |
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Post by benmnwi on Jul 17, 2019 12:17:01 GMT -6
Do you have any paper mills in your area that spread the paper mill sludge that raises the pH? This is kind of outside of what you are talking about, but that's a great way to get your pH raised for free if they offer it in your area. I had about 35 acres of fields/plots in Rusk County WI treated with that spitwad looking stuff and it raised the pH and organic matter for free. I guess it's cheaper for the paper mills to spread it on fields or they have to pay to have it taken to a landfill. The DNR verifies that the correct amount is spread in the correct locations so it doesn't negatively impact the soil or water. Back to your lime spreader - I'd keep it since some of the cheap calcium lime is in powder form. Yes it is, and right in his back yard. I might still pay the premium for Menards pell anyway. The particle size on the Dairy White makes only about half the content effective for soil neutralizing. The other half is big chips to keep the girls from slippin in the shit. Does Menards have a dolomitic lime available in pellet form? My bulk lime purchase was calcitic and based on my soil test dolomitic would work better. Just wondering if Menards or Fleet Farm had something that might work better for me. |
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Post by badbrad on Jul 17, 2019 12:53:20 GMT -6
Yes it is, and right in his back yard. I might still pay the premium for Menards pell anyway. The particle size on the Dairy White makes only about half the content effective for soil neutralizing. The other half is big chips to keep the girls from slippin in the shit. Does Menards have a dolomitic lime available in pellet form? My bulk lime purchase was calcitic and based on my soil test dolomitic would work better. Just wondering if Menards or Fleet Farm had something that might work better for me. I don't think so. Only the calicum based stuff. |
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Post by terrifictom on Jul 17, 2019 12:54:22 GMT -6
Refresh my memory why you should use one type of lime vs the other. Every thing that I read says they both will correct your ph.
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Post by benmnwi on Jul 17, 2019 13:07:27 GMT -6
You are correct that both raise the pH, but they impact calcium and magnesium at the same time based on the lime choice. Going with the right lime type will help kill 2 birds with one stone. I believe that sandy soils are high in calcium and dolomitic lime would be best to balance the calcium/magnesium levels.
Some other soils are low in calcium and calcitic lime raises the calcium levels which is better for that soil.
I bought a truckload of the wrong type of lime and I used a lot of it before realizing the potential issue and my food plots still turned out good. But they likely would have been better with a more balanced Ca/Mg ratio.
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