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Brassicas
Nov 7, 2019 20:51:30 GMT -6
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Post by mnfish on Nov 7, 2019 20:51:30 GMT -6
My brassica plots are almost completely wiped out already. Tom have you run any of the math on ur deer numbers? I would love to know the dpsm ur hunting. That is a lot of food wiped out pretty damn quickly. Damn nice plot by the way!
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Post by kooch on Nov 7, 2019 21:18:18 GMT -6
I've obviously never grown stuff as far as northern MN so I don't know first hand, but a July planting of rutabagas seems late up there? Probably. I think they are a 90-120 day thing. But, I doubt I'll have much WR in the Spring. My brassicas are thick, and the WR is thin. So, I'll need to plant my Spring oats for thatch and that means probably July before I have a nice crop to kill. Maybe mix Rutabaga and Turnip. I've never planted them either. But, I don't seem to be able to do things the same more than once...... even when what I plant worked. Based on my reading, I think I'd get bulbs, just not to the gigantic size they can be. Or, if the freeze comes late, maybe I'll get the jumbos. The Grandpa Ray's guy has a mixture that's just rutabaga/turnip/radish and he recommends August 1st. Here's what he says. "they are 90-100 days until maturity but i have a lot of people planting in august. They just won't grow as big of bulbs but still will be be bigger than turnips and sweeter. They will also give you more top growth."
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Post by biglakebass on Nov 7, 2019 21:27:54 GMT -6
Rutabaga and fixation balansa for me next year. I'm going all in on late season tubers and will dial up the muzzle loader. I will be the 2020 tuber champion. I am not a nerd. You by chance related to a guy named Shimanski?
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 8, 2019 6:16:34 GMT -6
The deer hit our brassicas early this year and didn’t let the bulbs develop much. They had clover to eat but, chose the brassicas even in September. Each year they seem to be eating them earlier. Way before frosts this year. It could be because of the drought we had they wanted more water? Not sure but maybe I should do sections of separate plantings next year instead of a mixture. I’m sure they’d choose one over the others. Maybe not. It’s been a weird fall. They’ve got acorns everywhere but are going to the plots to get the brassicas and winter rye. Leaving most of the apples although my nephew saw a doe eat six large apples over 20 minutes in one of my orchards last week.
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Post by kooch on Nov 9, 2019 7:25:18 GMT -6
Had a quick look at my brassica plot with binoculars. I do not need more food for these deer. Plenty left.
I need more deer. Need bedding I think to keep them around. Same thing I said last year and never did.
In a ground blind off my plot in what seems like a travel corridor.
Pretty warm so far TBH.
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Post by benmnwi on Nov 9, 2019 19:59:52 GMT -6
Had a quick look at my brassica plot with binoculars. I do not need more food for these deer. Plenty left. I need more deer. Need bedding I think to keep them around. Same thing I said last year and never did. In a ground blind off my plot in what seems like a travel corridor. Pretty warm so far TBH. Even aged Aspen clear cuts are great when they are young, but not once they canopy and choke off all understory. open up a bunch of small pockets and you will hold a lot more deer. Those pockets of shrubs and weeds are deer and small game magnets.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 9, 2019 20:05:56 GMT -6
Aspen tops on the ground in the winter also help keep deer fed and alive.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Nov 9, 2019 20:38:25 GMT -6
Hard to believe how much the deer can wipe out in a brassica plot in a couple weeks of cold weather.
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Post by sd51555 on Nov 9, 2019 20:44:54 GMT -6
Hard to believe how much the deer can wipe out in a brassica plot in a couple weeks of cold weather. They are June soybeans in October. I took a stab at getting some going in my clover, but I won’t pure plot them. They just get eaten too soon. Omaha Steve has a massive yearling doe pulling up mouths full of clover in front of him today.
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 10, 2019 12:34:17 GMT -6
Aspen tops on the ground in the winter also help keep deer fed and alive. They won’t touch the aspen here. Very little on the birch. They love maple tops here. They’ll be getting plenty more on the ground here come mid December. If my brother hasn’t found a job yet then we will go to town on releasing oaks.
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Post by Catscratch on Nov 10, 2019 12:36:55 GMT -6
I sometimes forget just how different things are from my place t you guys up north. Probably best to not offer advice from my experiences without careful though.
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Post by terrifictom on Nov 10, 2019 13:10:26 GMT -6
Hard to believe how much the deer can wipe out in a brassica plot in a couple weeks of cold weather. They are June soybeans in October. I took a stab at getting some going in my clover, but I won’t pure plot them. They just get eaten too soon. Omaha Steve has a massive yearling doe pulling up mouths full of clover in front of him today. Plant enough beans and brassicas and it doesn't matter.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 10, 2019 14:10:06 GMT -6
Aspen tops on the ground in the winter also help keep deer fed and alive. They won’t touch the aspen here. Very little on the birch. They love maple tops here. They’ll be getting plenty more on the ground here come mid December. If my brother hasn’t found a job yet then we will go to town on releasing oaks. I know you've told me that before, it's just crazy to me. Birch doesn't get hit here like aspen, but it gets hit. Maple does as well, but I don't drop that many maples. Do you have quaking, big tooth, or both types of aspen there?
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Post by nhmountains on Nov 10, 2019 14:15:22 GMT -6
They won’t touch the aspen here. Very little on the birch. They love maple tops here. They’ll be getting plenty more on the ground here come mid December. If my brother hasn’t found a job yet then we will go to town on releasing oaks. I know you've told me that before, it's just crazy to me. Birch doesn't get hit here like aspen, but it gets hit. Maple does as well, but I don't drop that many maples. Do you have quaking, big tooth, or both types of aspen there? I’m not sure. I’ve always called them poplar.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 10, 2019 14:17:23 GMT -6
I know you've told me that before, it's just crazy to me. Birch doesn't get hit here like aspen, but it gets hit. Maple does as well, but I don't drop that many maples. Do you have quaking, big tooth, or both types of aspen there? I’m not sure. I’ve always called them poplar. Any chance they're balsam poplar?
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