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Post by batman on Feb 10, 2020 15:30:33 GMT -6
That airplane talk is to hide tipsters from neighbors they turn in. I've seen you say that before. Maybe it's true, I don't know. I do know a gal just north and east of me just got a ticket for feeding under her bird feeders (bullshit IMHO) and the CO told her that someone turned her in. The airplane excuse isn't always used...if it's an excuse. When I turned neighbors in the CO told me he was going to claim they saw it from the air. Could be one hell of a big brother tactic and nothing more. But it is a tool (lie) they use.
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Coda1
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Post by Coda1 on Feb 10, 2020 21:11:45 GMT -6
We have a WMA on north and east sides. Neighbor to the south said they don't hunt but we have seen someone hunting during gun season one year and hear shots that way sometimes. Land to the west is Potlatch timber company land that was leased but haven't seen any new signs put up or anyone in there the last couple of years. Doesn't seem to be as many hunting the WMA as I would expect. Probably do to the lack of deer. I think most in the area shoot anything that moves. We have 3 guys on 40 acres. My Dad and I are a bit selective in what we shoot. My brother once passed on a small buck only to hear the neighbor shoot it a few minutes latter. He said that was the last time he passes on a buck. We haven't shot any does in about 10 years. We generally get 1 or 2 bucks each year. It appears we have more bucks then does on the cameras.
Based on how much it cost to buy a small tractor or implements I would say there is a lot of food plots. Within a mile of us I know of at least 4 other properties with food plots. Mostly wooded land and about 20% public or there would probably be more plots.
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Post by sd51555 on Feb 10, 2020 21:28:39 GMT -6
A couple of my neighbors plant food plots. But, they don’t grow shit. The old dude across the way asked how I got my brassicas to grow so well as I was delivering freshly picked turnips and radish to his wife Shirley. I told him exactly what I’ve done. He listened intently and said, “My food plot budget this year was $200. How much did fertilizer cost you? I just throw down a bag or two of 19-19-19. “ His turnips has no bulbs. His clover covered maybe 10% if the dirt. Funny thing is he’s got a tractor and a disk and a mower. But he won’t spend money on lime or fertilizer. They still killed a nice buck or two this year, for the area. Which one of us is the smart one? I’m kicking around the idea of not using anything but gypsum on my next expansion. That subsoil comes up heavy clay and higher pH anyway. I can always add later if it peters out.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Feb 11, 2020 8:57:47 GMT -6
We have a WMA on north and east sides. Neighbor to the south said they don't hunt but we have seen someone hunting during gun season one year and hear shots that way sometimes. Land to the west is Potlatch timber company land that was leased but haven't seen any new signs put up or anyone in there the last couple of years. Doesn't seem to be as many hunting the WMA as I would expect. Probably do to the lack of deer. I think most in the area shoot anything that moves. We have 3 guys on 40 acres. My Dad and I are a bit selective in what we shoot. My brother once passed on a small buck only to hear the neighbor shoot it a few minutes latter. He said that was the last time he passes on a buck. We haven't shot any does in about 10 years. We generally get 1 or 2 bucks each year. It appears we have more bucks then does on the cameras. Based on how much it cost to buy a small tractor or implements I would say there is a lot of food plots. Within a mile of us I know of at least 4 other properties with food plots. Mostly wooded land and about 20% public or there would probably be more plots. Hunting near a WMA can be a negative or a positive. Seems like the deer on the WMA get pushed off in many cases, depending on the size. If tough access it can give you more hunting options.
In my area of Western MN, the pheasant hunters pound the WMA so often, that deer rarely stay on the property...add in grazing and poor cover and it is not attractive to deer hunters. But they try. Big cattail/swampy areas do hold a few nice bucks.
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Post by Coda1 on Feb 12, 2020 4:58:21 GMT -6
Hunting near a WMA can be a negative or a positive. Seems like the deer on the WMA get pushed off in many cases, depending on the size. If tough access it can give you more hunting options.
In my area of Western MN, the pheasant hunters pound the WMA so often, that deer rarely stay on the property...add in grazing and poor cover and it is not attractive to deer hunters. But they try. Big cattail/swampy areas do hold a few nice bucks.
It's about 170 acres and doesn't have any real thick swamp. A lot of road frontage and a few old logging roads provide easy access. It appeared to have a couple different groups hunting it but not nearly as much pressure as some of the other state land in the area. No open areas so it isn't the best for making drives but at least one group tried last year. Gets some grouse hunters also. Overall it hasn't been too bad.
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Post by MN Slick on Feb 12, 2020 9:03:59 GMT -6
I lucked into two good situations down South from a deer management perspective. All great people but not on the same page management wise. One farm is noticeably better due to fewer and more selective neighbors. The other is good but 2 different neighbors allow more hunters than the outfitter an 80 away. My neighbor to my NW talked a great game but it's all talk. 2 years ago he sent me a picture of a young buck with awesome potential and said not to shoot it. I told him you don't need to worry about us. The very next day, I shit you not, his buddy shoots it. 3 years ago he shoots a 2 year old opening morning of gun. All talk......
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Post by Bwoods11 on Feb 12, 2020 9:12:11 GMT -6
I lucked into two good situations down South from a deer management perspective. All great people but not on the same page management wise. One farm is noticeably better due to fewer and more selective neighbors. The other is good but 2 different neighbors allow more hunters than the outfitter an 80 away. My neighbor to my NW talked a great game but it's all talk. 2 years ago he sent me a picture of a young buck with awesome potential and said not to shoot it. I told him you don't need to worry about us. The very next day, I shit you not, his buddy shoots it. 3 years ago he shoots a 2 year old opening morning of gun. All talk...... Did you talk to Paul...about his land search, you can PM me...
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Post by sd51555 on Feb 12, 2020 12:16:02 GMT -6
I'm fortunate at my place. Camp is stuck in the northeast corner of my property. So long as I have any kind of north, south, or west wind, I can hunt. My neighbors are a hay field land, the road, the president of the united states, and a guy in his late 50's that doesn't bow hunt, and only rifle hunts one weekend a year.
My neighbors directly across the road don't hunt. The ones off to the side do, and it's a non-issue. I think they've got it tough having west side camps trying to get in the woods with the wind constantly at their backs. I never hear any shooting over there during gun season.
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Post by MN Slick on Feb 13, 2020 8:11:55 GMT -6
I lucked into two good situations down South from a deer management perspective. All great people but not on the same page management wise. One farm is noticeably better due to fewer and more selective neighbors. The other is good but 2 different neighbors allow more hunters than the outfitter an 80 away. My neighbor to my NW talked a great game but it's all talk. 2 years ago he sent me a picture of a young buck with awesome potential and said not to shoot it. I told him you don't need to worry about us. The very next day, I shit you not, his buddy shoots it. 3 years ago he shoots a 2 year old opening morning of gun. All talk...... Did you talk to Paul...about his land search, you can PM me... Which one, lol? Yes we talk quite a bit.
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Post by leexrayshady on Feb 13, 2020 18:21:57 GMT -6
Property is bordered by road on 3 sides so that is nice, 1st southern neighbor lives in Vegas and only time we see hunters is during rifle and almost never hear shooting, Second southern neighbor owns 40 acers and is just him and his son, only shoot bucks for the most part and passes on small ones, 3rd southern neighbor is open crop field and only see hunters during rifle don't hear much shooting from them either. One northern neighbor lets a few hunters on mostly during rifle, but one does bow hunt he is a dick, but he helps my hunting considerably, by routinely walking to the far end of the field to bow hunt out of his redneck and walks back out at night scaring all the deer back into our place.
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Post by batman on Feb 13, 2020 19:21:04 GMT -6
Property is bordered by road on 3 sides so that is nice, 1st southern neighbor lives in Vegas and only time we see hunters is during rifle and almost never hear shooting, Second southern neighbor owns 40 acers and is just him and his son, only shoot bucks for the most part and passes on small ones, 3rd southern neighbor is open crop field and only see hunters during rifle don't hear much shooting from them either. One northern neighbor lets a few hunters on mostly during rifle, but one does bow hunt he is a dick, but he helps my hunting considerably, by routinely walking to the far end of the field to bow hunt out of his redneck and walks back out at night scaring all the deer back into our place. Throw a couple nice sheds by the Redneck to reinforce the behavior. If your not that kind of guy consider them a nice gift for him.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Feb 17, 2020 11:19:22 GMT -6
Looking promising once I fix up this 160 by Swift Falls, the one corner is bordered by a no hunting park (100 acres). The deer are pouring out of this, and my land next to it. Amazing how the deer find the sanctuary. The best neighbor is a property off limits to hunting! Going to focus on food to pull them out.
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Post by honker on May 17, 2020 9:47:32 GMT -6
Neighbors to the south of me are letting a farmer friend raise cattle in the 80 acres that borders mine. Looks like he was tilling up their hayfield that had been fallow goldenrod the past couple years last weekend. Not sure what he will be putting in there yet. I had the deer pattern off and on that property pretty well dialed in over the last three years and I'm sure that will all be reset now depending on if and when the cattle are removed and what goes into the field. It will be interesting to see if the deer keep using the same funnels now that the fence is repaired or change up their travel. Could have been worse than a cattle farmer I guess.
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Post by benmnwi on May 17, 2020 10:41:24 GMT -6
Neighbors to the south of me are letting a farmer friend raise cattle in the 80 acres that borders mine. Looks like he was tilling up their hayfield that had been fallow goldenrod the past couple years last weekend. Not sure what he will be putting in there yet. I had the deer pattern off and on that property pretty well dialed in over the last three years and I'm sure that will all be reset now depending on if and when the cattle are removed and what goes into the field. It will be interesting to see if the deer keep using the same funnels now that the fence is repaired or change up their travel. Could have been worse than a cattle farmer I guess. Adding cattle to a property will open up the ground cover and force the deer to bed elsewhere. That property will hold fewer deer than before if the cattle are allowed on the whole 80 acres. If the cattle graze it hard you won't see many deer coming from that direction. A neighbor on one side of me pastures cattle on his land and it is essentially a dead zone since there isn't enough cover to hold a cottontail rabbit.
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Post by honker on May 17, 2020 10:55:22 GMT -6
Neighbors to the south of me are letting a farmer friend raise cattle in the 80 acres that borders mine. Looks like he was tilling up their hayfield that had been fallow goldenrod the past couple years last weekend. Not sure what he will be putting in there yet. I had the deer pattern off and on that property pretty well dialed in over the last three years and I'm sure that will all be reset now depending on if and when the cattle are removed and what goes into the field. It will be interesting to see if the deer keep using the same funnels now that the fence is repaired or change up their travel. Could have been worse than a cattle farmer I guess. Adding cattle to a property will open up the ground cover and force the deer to bed elsewhere. That property will hold fewer deer than before if the cattle are allowed on the whole 80 acres. If the cattle graze it hard you won't see many deer coming from that direction. A neighbor on one side of me pastures cattle on his land and it is essentially a dead zone since there isn't enough cover to hold a cottontail rabbit. The deer tend to use my property for spring and summer bedding, but have switched to bedding on that property once the leaves fall and temps drop. It has good south facing slopes and thicker cover. Not sure how many cattle they will have on it, but that was my concern. Best case it keeps the deer in my woods now that it is getting thicker, worst case they head out of the area completely. As long as it doesn't come with 8 orange jackets sitting on the fenceline this fall, I'll be fine.
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