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Post by chummer16 on May 19, 2017 6:10:39 GMT -6
Looking good. Looks I might have one graft on my Frankenstein make it. My grafts at camp went through a week of frost after I grafted them so they are probably dead. Hoping to find some trees in bloom tonight. Looks like last week ended with one day around 27 and 5 days in the low 30's so I might have some apples.
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Cummins
May 19, 2017 11:50:39 GMT -6
Post by nhmountains on May 19, 2017 11:50:39 GMT -6
Looking good. Looks I might have one graft on my Frankenstein make it. My grafts at camp went through a week of frost after I grafted them so they are probably dead. Hoping to find some trees in bloom tonight. Looks like last week ended with one day around 27 and 5 days in the low 30's so I might have some apples. I wouldn't give up on them yet Chummer. They still may make it if they weren't leafed out.
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Post by nhmountains on May 25, 2017 3:10:09 GMT -6
Still at 97 of 100 for the original March grafts. 5 of 10 on the G935 grafts I did a few weeks later but, they are swelling so more should pop. Also did 4 other B118 grafts on stock I had overwintered. All 4 have popped so my total right now is 106-114 grafts successful. In early June I'll have to look into cutting the rubber bands on the grafts to prevent girdling.
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Cummins
Jul 19, 2017 5:11:24 GMT -6
Post by nhmountains on Jul 19, 2017 5:11:24 GMT -6
I'm disappointed in the G935 rootstock from Cummins. 5 have died completely. Only 2 grafts are living. One has put on 12" of growth. The other 3 have spurred lots of growth below the graft which I could stool into more rootstock. I'm going to have to find a smaller non Geneva rootstock to graft to for home. I want to plant a line on an espalier layout.
Any suggestions?
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Cummins
Jul 19, 2017 7:13:49 GMT -6
Post by smsmith on Jul 19, 2017 7:13:49 GMT -6
I have zero first hand experience with the Geneva rootstocks. From what I've read the last year or so...I think they may have been hyped a bit too much.
I think B9 is used in espalier. I also see folks using M26
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Jul 19, 2017 7:57:13 GMT -6
Post by buckvelvet on Jul 19, 2017 7:57:13 GMT -6
The G30s I have are fantastic, those are from cummins 2 years ago. I would recommend them to anyone.
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Post by nhmountains on Jul 19, 2017 18:58:53 GMT -6
The G30s I have are fantastic, those are from cummins 2 years ago. I would recommend them to anyone. I should've planted these without grafting them this year. They were basically cuttings with one or two single roots on 6 of the 10. I ordered late so I'm guessing I got the bottom of the barrel. It happened to me on my first order with Cummins as well. The trees all survived but, they had very poor roots. Subsequent orders the trees had great roots. If I'd planted them without grafting I'd be able to t-bud them now. I'm probably going to order so B9 rootstock for next spring.
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Cummins
Jul 19, 2017 19:17:50 GMT -6
Post by nhmountains on Jul 19, 2017 19:17:50 GMT -6
BV,
Any photos of your G41 trees? Maybe I'll try those instead of B9.
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Post by buckvelvet on Jul 20, 2017 15:36:18 GMT -6
NH, they are G30 but i know you meant that. All grafted in spring 2015. Fuji Red Sport Pinova Pink Pearl Pinova has the biggest caliper at bear 1 1/2... PP is the tallest around 6 1/2 ft, pinova is the shortest around 5 ft.
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Cummins
Jul 20, 2017 17:16:01 GMT -6
Post by nhmountains on Jul 20, 2017 17:16:01 GMT -6
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Jul 20, 2017 17:20:02 GMT -6
Post by smsmith on Jul 20, 2017 17:20:02 GMT -6
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Jul 20, 2017 17:44:40 GMT -6
Post by nhmountains on Jul 20, 2017 17:44:40 GMT -6
Stu, what if i train and attach them them to a 3-4 wire system? That's what my wife wants at home. I'll have 3-4 scaffolds. Eventually with different types of fruit per tree. I'd be putting this on tge north side of my home and the north winds can come whipping down our hollow in the winter so now I'm up in the air.
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Jul 20, 2017 17:49:44 GMT -6
Post by smsmith on Jul 20, 2017 17:49:44 GMT -6
Stu, what if i train and attach them them to a 3-4 wire system? That's what my wife wants at home. I'll have 3-4 scaffolds. Eventually with different types of fruit per tree. I'd be putting this on tge north side of my home and the north winds can come whipping down our hollow in the winter so now I'm up in the air. No direct experience, so I can only go on what I read. From the sounds of what I linked, a 3-4 wire trellis should alleviate much of the brittle wood issue. Some more reading on G30 growingfruit.org/t/geneva-30-rootstock/874/5
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Post by buckvelvet on Jul 20, 2017 18:16:11 GMT -6
I had read lots of reports before i decided on g30, smaller tree and good for my sandy soils here in Mi.
It'll stay smaller for my home pickin. No compatibility issues, grafts are strong & healed well. G41 came out later than g30 from what i read. I am very happy so far with my results so far guys.
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