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Post by Sandbur on Mar 30, 2020 12:46:29 GMT -6
I prefer dolgo rootstock. Seventeen varieties of apples to graft. Some will be topworks and some added to franken trees. Five pears to add to my pear tree. one plum to topwork on wild plum.
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Post by nhmountains on Mar 30, 2020 19:32:30 GMT -6
I did 15 varieties on Friday. All cleft grafts. We will see in a few weeks how I did. I’ll try top working a few trees at the end of April.
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Post by Sandbur on Mar 31, 2020 5:31:28 GMT -6
I did mostly cleft grafts last spring and was happy with the results.
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Post by benmnwi on Mar 31, 2020 11:32:27 GMT -6
cleft grafting has worked well for me.
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Post by smsmith on Mar 31, 2020 11:35:43 GMT -6
Cleft grafts are the easiest to master IME. I really don't like how they look though. Most of my grafts are whip/tongue, but will go to cleft when rootstock and scion sizes are considerably different.
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Post by nhmountains on Apr 10, 2020 12:23:50 GMT -6
I thought this was a good article on care of the grafted trees after grafting.
How to plant and grow bench-grafts By Paul Tvergyak ptvergyak@charter.net
Some growers are shifting to bench-grafts as their source of fruit trees for planting and replanting orchards. Cost is certainly a factor in their decision, however like in most things what is gained is balanced by increased risk. Bench-grafts as a general rule are more tender and fragile than a 2-year-old tree from the nursery. Your success is very dependent on your management and the weather. The graft union on a bench graft is only partially callused at planting time and is physically weak relative to the rootstock and scion. A light frost will kill cells at the tender union so don’t plant until there is no chance of frost. A 5% loss is common and you shouldn’t plan on a 100% take. If we plant grafts to produce nursery trees we plant 15% extra anticipating loss in the production process. Growers should plan accordingly and order 15% more grafts than the planting requires.
If you begin to see survivability problems in your bench-graft plantings shortly after planting, call the nursery immediately to help manage and mitigate the problems.
The following recommendations will help you improve tree survivability in your planting:
•Do not touch the graft, except below the graft union, until late May or until you have 3” of growth. Many grafts are lost at planting due to workers holding the grafts from the top and breaking the developing callus. Even brushing against them or tripping across a row can break many grafts. This happens easily and often remains invisible due to the tape and wax covering the unions.
•Begin an aggressive mildew program at planting time. The stress of healing the graft seems to make them more susceptible to mildew problems. Adding some urea to each mildew spray may help with leaf size and vigor.
•Plant bench-grafts with a shovel. Although bench-grafts have been successfully planted with machines the weaker graft union structure will contribute to more breakage potential.
•Plant bench grafts when the buds at the top of the graft stick begin to swell. We ask that you give us a target planting date. We will warm up your grafts with that target in mind. Understand they may be ready a few days before or after your target, but they should be planted when they are ready, so please try to be flexible. ©2005 Cameron Nursery, LLC, www.cameronnursery.com
•Site preparation is important. We recommend pre-irrigating the soil or at least getting moisture to the roots within 24 hours of planting.
•Irrigation management is probably the most critical issue in establishing an orchard of bench grafts. The root zone cannot dry out. In most cases a rollout drip system for 1-2 years will pay for itself in surviving trees and tree growth.
•We recommend using grow tubes. The graft union is tender and the heat generated inside the tube promotes callusing and protects a little from dehydration. Growtubes also help protect from weed sprays. You can remove the tubes at the end of the first growing season.
•The type of grow tube is to some degree irrelevant but ones that incorporate a bamboo stake that allows you to slide the tube up and down the stake will make rootstock suckering during the summer easier.
•The protected area inside the grow tube is also a great place for pests, particularly cutworms, red mite, and mildew. Use a control method several times a season that gets the material down inside the tube.
•When you pass through the grafts to trim them, choose what to do on a plant-by-plant basis using the following criteria:
1.If all buds are pushing at the same time and all are 1” long, then strip the rootstocks only.
2.When shoots on graft scion are 3-4” long thin to the two best ones.
3.When the strongest shoot is 4-5” long thin to the best one. Keep the rest of the plant stripped as the root shank my keep trying to sucker through the year.
4.Around July 20th cut the stub of the scion off so the wound has time to heal and it will not desiccate and cause other problems.
5.If the scion stick is slow to push but the rootstock is pushing profusely then thin the root suckers to the highest, strong shoot. If the scion never pushes adequately then bud the stock in August.
6.By the time the scion is 12” you will likely have made four to eight total passes.
7.The rest is obvious: keep one leader, remove low branches, and always watch for mildew.
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Post by smallchunk on Apr 11, 2020 7:55:51 GMT -6
Those last steps are some good info! I wonder what’s out there for mildew spray, I feel like that gets some of mine every year. Down in my happy place this morning.
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Post by benmnwi on Apr 11, 2020 8:01:21 GMT -6
How many trees are you selling every year now? I think a guy could make some decent money selling apple trees if you could get your name out there. I think grafting a couple hundred could be tolerable if it meant you could buy an atv or something cool with the proceeds.
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 11, 2020 11:25:41 GMT -6
Those last steps are some good info! I wonder what’s out there for mildew spray, I feel like that gets some of mine every year. Down in my happy place this morning.
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Post by Freeborn on Apr 11, 2020 13:01:56 GMT -6
Those last steps are some good info! I wonder what’s out there for mildew spray, I feel like that gets some of mine every year. Down in my happy place this morning. Here does a guy buy camo fleece? Looks pretty comfy.
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Post by smallchunk on Apr 11, 2020 22:41:21 GMT -6
How many trees are you selling every year now? I think a guy could make some decent money selling apple trees if you could get your name out there. I think grafting a couple hundred could be tolerable if it meant you could buy an atv or something cool with the proceeds. It’s pretty much a hobby. If the damn rabbit didn’t clip off all my grafts two springs ago, I’d have a ton of trees ready to roll this spring. He killed me ha. I would be happy to sell 12 or so trees this year. Clear the way for some new grafts!
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Post by smallchunk on Apr 11, 2020 22:41:48 GMT -6
Those last steps are some good info! I wonder what’s out there for mildew spray, I feel like that gets some of mine every year. Down in my happy place this morning. Here does a guy buy camo fleece? Looks pretty comfy. I think they were a Christmas present, so I’m not sure!
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Post by honker on Apr 12, 2020 12:01:59 GMT -6
Those last steps are some good info! I wonder what’s out there for mildew spray, I feel like that gets some of mine every year. Down in my happy place this morning. Here does a guy buy camo fleece? Looks pretty comfy. My wife got me the same fleece in both green and grey camo. They are my favorite around the house. Pretty sure they are from Kohls
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Post by smallchunk on Apr 17, 2020 20:14:39 GMT -6
Art’s Berry Crab was the first one to wake up. Grafted 4/7 These next three I grafted on 4/10 for Freeborn. All just starting to wake up. First one is Rut Drop #1, second one is Rut Drop #2 and the third one is Courthouse Crab
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Post by smsmith on Apr 17, 2020 20:25:45 GMT -6
^^^Courthouse Crab was still holding fruit when I drove past two weeks ago.
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