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Post by Freeborn on Mar 23, 2017 18:29:14 GMT -6
I would be happy if they played theater for two years, pick up 8 seats in the Senate, then stick it up Shummer and Pelosi's ass. Until then cut taxes, build the wall, and wipe out Isis. There is no way to fix Obamacare without 60 seats in the Senate. I hope they get something to the senate so the Dems can Veto it. Did you see that the Dems sent the republicans an email that they wanted to work together to fix Obamacare? Amazing how politicians don't want the other side to get any credit for anything.
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Post by sd51555 on Mar 24, 2017 16:46:56 GMT -6
Well the bill got pulled. Now the politics being. It's going to be interesting to see who this gets pinned on.
Was it a great conspiracy to get rid of Ryan? Trump does a reboot and leads the march himself? Has Trump just plain failed?
Who knows? I'll have to wait and see what the talking heads think. I just don't see Trump walking away from this and allowing the ACA to continue ripping the country's middle class to shreds. I hope to see a ground swell to put Ryan's head on a post. It just seems odd this thing popped up and died so quickly and with virtually no discussion on the house floor.
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Post by Freeborn on Mar 24, 2017 17:05:22 GMT -6
Execution was bad again, not certain why. Obvious they don't know their ranks very well.
Obamacare is still not done and can't be left as is so who knows where it goes from here. Lets hope they get something done on the rest of their agenda.
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Post by sd51555 on Mar 24, 2017 17:14:13 GMT -6
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Post by nhmountains on Mar 25, 2017 5:44:13 GMT -6
SD,
They had 7 years to come up with something. I hate to say it but, if that's a sign of things to come we're in trouble. The tax cut plan roll out better be better prepared.
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Post by smsmith on Mar 25, 2017 7:33:46 GMT -6
All a smoke screen. The Rs never really intended to do anything about ACA, they just used it as a tool to manipulate voters (shock)
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Post by Freeborn on Mar 25, 2017 9:23:42 GMT -6
All a smoke screen. The Rs never really intended to do anything about ACA, they just used it as a tool to manipulate voters (shock) I hope that's not true though everything's fair in politics. ACA has to change but nobody wants to be the one holding the bag. Democrats past it let them be responsible for it.
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Post by smsmith on Mar 25, 2017 9:27:26 GMT -6
All a smoke screen. The Rs never really intended to do anything about ACA, they just used it as a tool to manipulate voters (shock) I hope that's not true though everything's fair in politics. ACA has to change but nobody wants to be the one holding the bag. Democrats past it let them be responsible for it. None of the lying bastards on either side of the aisle give a shit about ACA. They aren't impacted by it, they continue to have the best health care in the country at our expense. I have even less faith in the Rs than I did before this election...I lost all faith in the Ds quite awhile ago. They're all the same, just a bunch of lying, manipulative douche bags.
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Post by sd51555 on Mar 25, 2017 9:36:28 GMT -6
The fact that Ryan and McConnel got reappointed to leadership positions lets you know the majority of the GOP caucus is still made up of assholes. I had expected Ryan to shit up the bill even further to pull enough democrat votes to cancel out the freedom caucus and get it passed.
If the GOP just walks away from fixing health care and allows the ACA to finish it's carnage, they'll be relegated to the minority for the rest of time.
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Post by sd51555 on Mar 25, 2017 9:37:35 GMT -6
"Hey honey? You know what we pay for the cabin loan, the four wheeler, and tractor loan? Our insurance went up by that much for next year."
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Post by smsmith on Mar 25, 2017 9:42:21 GMT -6
How can any elected Republican ever go back to their District and face their constituents? For 7 years every Goddamn one of them have been saying "we gotta repeal Obamacare". Fuckers get the chance and they shit the bed. Bring on the abortion and gun debates....that'll keep the sheep arguing among ourselves
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Post by sd51555 on Mar 25, 2017 9:45:25 GMT -6
How can any elected Republican ever go back to their District and face their constituents? For 7 years every Goddamn one of them have been saying "we gotta repeal Obamacare". Fuckers get the chance and they shit the bed. Bring on the abortion and gun debates....that'll keep the sheep arguing among ourselves Tried and true tactic right there. The majority of the party has no balls except when it comes to slitting each other's throats in primaries. That's why I like Trump, he's got the balls. I hope he'll use this debacle to get Ryan ousted. That prick was no ally of Trump leading up to the election. The only thing he didn't do was endorse Hillary.
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Post by kabic on Mar 25, 2017 16:47:40 GMT -6
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Post by Freeborn on Mar 25, 2017 21:08:28 GMT -6
What do you say to that? Dental care at the ER? it comes down to the same question, is healthcare a right or a privledge? I want to cover people but is there any expense that is off limits? I have a hard time paying for those who abuse themselves or who don't take any responsibility for their health.
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Post by Reagan on Mar 26, 2017 4:41:32 GMT -6
What do you say to that? Dental care at the ER? it comes down to the same question, is healthcare a right or a privledge? I want to cover people but is there any expense that is off limits? I have a hard time paying for those who abuse themselves or who don't take any responsibility for their health. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Healthcare isn't listed.
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