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Post by badgerfowl on Aug 6, 2020 11:14:55 GMT -6
Better sleep on it. Good luck. . Edit: Alternately.....you could give an order to MO each winter.......and make one trip to visit him on your way to your camp. You'd have everything you need in one-stop shopping. (If he is not down in OZ or MO). FORE! This ain't about me. I can get almost everything I want already (except those cover crop beans/corn). This is for the Wisconsin guys, the Michigan guys, Carl, Reagan, and anyone else out there that has to look at pics from Catscratch and wonder if they'll ever be able to plant that fancy ass wheat without having to refi the house. The only thing I want that Cat has are those giant bucks he keeps hoarding!
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Post by Foggy on Aug 6, 2020 19:48:38 GMT -6
The Buckwheat Growers ASSN is located in Wadena MN. They have huge amount of seed.....but dont sell any for cheap either. I dunno.......Buckwheat was cheap at one time......and I like the ease in growing it on most any ground.....but the seed has gotten way to expensive for what it is. tell me I'm wrong?? .......but $50 / bushel for buckwheat seems like allot.
I can buy roundup ready soybeans or corn for that price. Gotten too popular with the Jap's liking their buckwheat pancakes.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 6, 2020 20:06:04 GMT -6
The Buckwheat Growers ASSN is located in Wadena MN. They have huge amount of seed.....but dont sell any for cheap either. I dunno.......Buckwheat was cheap at one time......and I like the ease in growing it on most any ground.....but the seed has gotten way to expensive for what it is. tell me I'm wrong?? ....... but $50 / bushel for buckwheat seems like allot.I can buy roundup ready soybeans or corn for that price. Gotten too popular with the Jap's liking their buckwheat pancakes. I sold a pallet of bucket seed for $30 bag to these guys on here. You should have grabbed some when you were here.
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Post by biglakebass on Aug 6, 2020 20:08:12 GMT -6
I used to get 50 lbs of buckwheat for 10 bucks a bag if I recall. It was silly cheap. Then something happened... no idea what.
Back to Winter rye at $12 for 50 lbs or whatever it is now. I was gonna get some this weekend but have to wait till next weekend.
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Post by Foggy on Aug 6, 2020 20:11:04 GMT -6
The Buckwheat Growers ASSN is located in Wadena MN. They have huge amount of seed.....but dont sell any for cheap either. I dunno.......Buckwheat was cheap at one time......and I like the ease in growing it on most any ground.....but the seed has gotten way to expensive for what it is. tell me I'm wrong?? ....... but $50 / bushel for buckwheat seems like allot.I can buy roundup ready soybeans or corn for that price. Gotten too popular with the Jap's liking their buckwheat pancakes. I sold a pallet of bucket seed for $30 bag to these guys on here. You should have grabbed some when you were here. Yeah.....I saw your offer AFTER I was at your place.......or I would have bought a couple of bags. THAT is / was a great deal. I like buckwheat.....but I don't like the typical current price for how I am going to use it (to build organic matter) and feed the bees, etc. I think I have bought about 3 bags in the past......and spread it on the worst ground I own. It grows! I think buckwheat is nearly ideal as a nurse crop for clover......but it costs more than rye.
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Post by leexrayshady on Aug 6, 2020 21:38:11 GMT -6
The Buckwheat Growers ASSN is located in Wadena MN. They have huge amount of seed.....but dont sell any for cheap either. I dunno.......Buckwheat was cheap at one time......and I like the ease in growing it on most any ground.....but the seed has gotten way to expensive for what it is. tell me I'm wrong?? .......but $50 / bushel for buckwheat seems like allot. I can buy roundup ready soybeans or corn for that price. Gotten too popular with the Jap's liking their buckwheat pancakes. not anymore they went out of business last year
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Post by biglakebass on Aug 7, 2020 20:12:55 GMT -6
you have Bob Hunt in Wadena still. No idea what his buckwheat is now days.
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Post by Foggy on Aug 7, 2020 20:22:08 GMT -6
SD.....if you would hook-up with a guy like MO via a good agreement........and run his web orders biz and ship in 10, 25 and 50 lb lots of the most popular seeds and chems for weed control......you could out-compete any of the seed and chemical companies in the biz. Just offer fair prices and great service, SOIL TESTING, on time shipping and get your name out thru the various web sites and on-line promo.......and you could be golden. Just saying. Easy to hook up with a good soil lab....or university. If you could do a little interp for folks on soils.....or provide someone like Bat to do a land survey.....you'd get their money. Maybe map services too? dunno.....lots of expansion ideas here. Edit: Early order program. FREE SOIL TESTING with every order placed before March 15.....OR with every order over $150.00 .......etc etc. You get the drift. If folks had just a little biz smarts and a little imagination.....they could go a long way. You got that (at times). Grin. quit wasting your time and energy on stuff like solar collectors......and make a biz plan son.
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Post by Foggy on Aug 7, 2020 20:29:59 GMT -6
^ not much downside to this Kinda biz. The seed will always sell at reduced prices.....if you get in a jam. Figure out how to carry enough of the most popular stuff. It keeps pretty good. Needs a good biz plan and an operator. Go to state fairs, Game fairs, deer hunters banquets.....etc.....and before you know it the world is your oyster. Hell.....I may even finance such a venture for the right operator.
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 7, 2020 21:16:49 GMT -6
^ not much downside to this Kinda biz. The seed will always sell at reduced prices.....if you get in a jam. Figure out how to carry enough of the most popular stuff. It keeps pretty good. Needs a good biz plan and an operator. Go to state fairs, Game fairs, deer hunters banquets.....etc.....and before you know it the world is your oyster. Hell.....I may even finance such a venture for the right operator. The future of food plotting and habitat management isn't in today's model. The whole market is ripe to be turned upside down, but it isn't ready for it yet. Keep an ear to the ground and you can hear the demand forming among working weekend warriors. Weeds ain't dying, success hangs too much on perfect moisture, equipment is getting ridiculous, sourcing is still a shit show, seed is way too expensive, fertility gets trickier as plots age, liming is a pain in the ass, and there is never enough time. Do I have the answers? I think I'm getting there, otherwise I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing. Do I have all of them? Not even close. Does anyone care? I think it's just the cat and me on an island trying to crack the code on all these problems.
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Post by Foggy on Aug 7, 2020 21:38:36 GMT -6
^ not much downside to this Kinda biz. The seed will always sell at reduced prices.....if you get in a jam. Figure out how to carry enough of the most popular stuff. It keeps pretty good. Needs a good biz plan and an operator. Go to state fairs, Game fairs, deer hunters banquets.....etc.....and before you know it the world is your oyster. Hell.....I may even finance such a venture for the right operator. The future of food plotting and habitat management isn't in today's model. The whole market is ripe to be turned upside down, but it isn't ready for it yet. Keep an ear to the ground and you can hear the demand forming among working weekend warriors. Weeds ain't dying, success hangs too much on perfect moisture, equipment is getting ridiculous, sourcing is still a shit show, seed is way too expensive, fertility gets trickier as plots age, liming is a pain in the ass, and there is never enough time. Do I have the answers? I think I'm getting there, otherwise I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing. Do I have all of them? Not even close. Does anyone care? I think it's just the cat and me on an island trying to crack the code on all these problems. Just another fuking millennial democrat...who dont know the difference from shit and shingle......just like I figured. Press on.
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Post by nhmountains on Aug 7, 2020 23:00:01 GMT -6
I thought Mo was retiring soon?
I wish I had local seed sources for plotting. I get winter rye from local Agway’s for $25-32 depending on the year. It’s been from Virginia or Canada.
I get buckwheat at $58 a bushel from the local Agway
Everything else comes from Welter in Iowa or Hancock Seed in Florida.
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Post by smsmith on Aug 8, 2020 7:23:23 GMT -6
^ not much downside to this Kinda biz. The seed will always sell at reduced prices.....if you get in a jam. Figure out how to carry enough of the most popular stuff. It keeps pretty good. Needs a good biz plan and an operator. Go to state fairs, Game fairs, deer hunters banquets.....etc.....and before you know it the world is your oyster. Hell.....I may even finance such a venture for the right operator. The future of food plotting and habitat management isn't in today's model. The whole market is ripe to be turned upside down, but it isn't ready for it yet. Keep an ear to the ground and you can hear the demand forming among working weekend warriors. Weeds ain't dying, success hangs too much on perfect moisture, equipment is getting ridiculous, sourcing is still a shit show, seed is way too expensive, fertility gets trickier as plots age, liming is a pain in the ass, and there is never enough time. Do I have the answers? I think I'm getting there, otherwise I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing. Do I have all of them? Not even close. Does anyone care? I think it's just the cat and me on an island trying to crack the code on all these problems. You are creating "problems" that don't really exist. I've put down a few hundred lbs. of lime and gypsum here, but I grew plenty of decent foodplots without doing so. You want to "crack the code"...buy deer hunting land with decent soil. It doesn't have to be the best silt or clay loam, but something that isn't all peat or sand. I put down zero lime or gypsum on my old place and grew lush clover and brassicas. Apples and pears showed great growth with zero fertilizer. When I was looking for a place to live and hunt, soil texture was a huge consideration. Anywhere that was really sandy or wet was out of consideration immediately.
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Post by Catscratch on Aug 8, 2020 11:01:30 GMT -6
Just called the CO-OP and ordered 4 bags of Awnless wheat. It's cheaper here than grain wheat seed... Someday I'll get liquor'd up and post some deer pics that stay on my phone and off the interwebs. Until then I'll just keep teasin you northern guys with our dinks.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 8, 2020 12:50:53 GMT -6
I thought Mo was retiring soon? I wish I had local seed sources for plotting. I get winter rye from local Agway’s for $25-32 depending on the year. It’s been from Virginia or Canada. I get buckwheat at $58 a bushel from the local Agway Everything else comes from Welter in Iowa or Hancock Seed in Florida. Mo is retiring. There is no money in food plot seed.
Last pallet of Buckwheat that came in was $28 for a 50lb bag, your getting screwed at $58
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