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Post by Foggy on Mar 6, 2021 11:43:31 GMT -6
Do you notice much burr oak regen? Yes, up north and yes on northern slopes or shaded here at home. Very, very slow growth on the low sand with sun exposure. A bit of shade from the west helps. That is probably also a location where snows piles up and persists more. I would like to encourage the growth and acorn output on my Burr Oaks. What would be a good plan for fertilizing those trees. Could I back up to those trees with my cone spreader and put down some lime and sone triple 19 (for example)? Anyone read about an (easy) method to do this....that got some good results? I've got allot of newly released burr oaks that are about 4 or 5" diameter and 20 feet high. I'd like to see some acorn production in my lifetime.
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Post by smsmith on Mar 6, 2021 12:13:14 GMT -6
Yes, up north and yes on northern slopes or shaded here at home. Very, very slow growth on the low sand with sun exposure. A bit of shade from the west helps. That is probably also a location where snows piles up and persists more. I would like to encourage the growth and acorn output on my Burr Oaks. What would be a good plan for fertilizing those trees. Could I back up to those trees with my cone spreader and put down some lime and sone triple 19 (for example)? Anyone read about an (easy) method to do this....that got some good results? I've got allot of newly released burr oaks that are about 4 or 5" diameter and 20 feet high. I'd like to see some acorn production in my lifetime. I did a fair amount of research on fertilizing oaks a few years ago. Most of what I read from universities indicated it wasn't worth the time or cost.
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Post by Sandbur on Mar 6, 2021 17:19:33 GMT -6
Foggy, maybe reduce competition around them.
Cut back the popple
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Post by Foggy on Mar 6, 2021 20:35:09 GMT -6
Foggy, maybe reduce competition around them. Cut back the popple Yep....may make a 6' flail cut around some of those trees. Can't hurt. Those poppies are getting pretty big now.....may be the last year I can cut them with my flail or cutter.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Mar 6, 2021 21:43:05 GMT -6
Shed hunting today I saw quite a few small-medium sized Bur oaks that I need to release.
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Post by Sandbur on Mar 7, 2021 6:38:23 GMT -6
Foggy, maybe reduce competition around them. Cut back the popple Yep....may make a 6' flail cut around some of those trees. Can't hurt. Those poppies are getting pretty big now.....may be the last year I can cut them with my flail or cutter. I would go 12 feet or more if your equipment can handle it. This will change the age of popple regrowth in that area and benefit lots of wildlife. As years go on, you don’t want a uniform aged popple stand for wildlife. Even cutting back 6-12 feet along the sides of the foodplot would be worthwhile. More edge and types of edge.
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Post by smsmith on Mar 7, 2021 8:51:05 GMT -6
Yep....may make a 6' flail cut around some of those trees. Can't hurt. Those poppies are getting pretty big now.....may be the last year I can cut them with my flail or cutter. I would go 12 feet or more if your equipment can handle it. This will change the age of popple regrowth in that area and benefit lots of wildlife. As years go on, you don’t want a uniform aged popple stand for wildlife.Even cutting back 6-12 feet along the sides of the foodplot would be worthwhile. More edge and types of edge. Yep. That is exactly why I spend many hours with a chainsaw every winter.
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Post by Foggy on Mar 7, 2021 9:44:12 GMT -6
I need to give this some thought. I was able to easily cut through the willows last year with my flail mower......but those conditions wont last long. Never thought about cutting back on the willows. May need some clarification on how to do that. Land tour?
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Post by Foggy on Mar 7, 2021 11:49:40 GMT -6
I would go 12 feet or more if your equipment can handle it. This will change the age of popple regrowth in that area and benefit lots of wildlife. As years go on, you don’t want a uniform aged popple stand for wildlife.Even cutting back 6-12 feet along the sides of the foodplot would be worthwhile. More edge and types of edge. Yep. That is exactly why I spend many hours with a chainsaw every winter. Makes allot of sense. I just dont know how willing I am to do that chain saw work anymore. I may try to slash a few pockets in the perimeter of my food plots with a cutter tho.....while I can still accomplish this with my tractor and cutter. Last season I was able to cut a new trail through the willows (perhaps 100 yards).....and the flail mower did a pretty nice job of doing so. I may try this again.....but likely would run my rotary cutter through to preserve the flail mower. I was bordering on abusive operation (?)
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Post by Sandbur on Mar 7, 2021 13:23:14 GMT -6
I need to give this some thought. I was able to easily cut through the willows last year with my flail mower......but those conditions wont last long. Never thought about cutting back on the willows. May need some clarification on how to do that. Land tour? Can you cut back the popple regrowth in patches with your equipment? Cutting back willows is ok.
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Post by Bwoods11 on May 2, 2021 17:46:52 GMT -6
I checked my Swamp Bur Oaks today up at Otter Tail County. Didn’t take pics, but will later in summer. Unbelievable growth and survival. As long as I put a tube, or cage the tree ... they grow fast. Didn’t seem to matter where or what soils? Very surprised, I thought the sandy areas would be a no-go, not the case.
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Post by nhmountains on May 2, 2021 18:09:04 GMT -6
I received 50 swamp white and 25 bur oaks from MDC on Friday. They’ll get planted next weekend most likely.
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Post by smsmith on May 2, 2021 18:10:18 GMT -6
I checked my Swamp Bur Oaks today up at Otter Tail County. Didn’t take pics, but will later in summer. Unbelievable growth and survival. As long as I put a tube, or cage the tree ... they grow fast. Didn’t seem to matter where or what soils? Very surprised, I thought the sandy areas would be a no-go, not the case. Itasca plugs?
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Post by Bwoods11 on May 2, 2021 18:30:49 GMT -6
Yep Itasca . I’ve also ordered some in the past from Kelly Tree Farm in Iowa.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jul 5, 2021 8:35:17 GMT -6
These hybrids have been surprisingly drought tolerant. I’d expected a total loss on this years planting, but so far some are surviving. Tomorrow it’s supposed to rain, with cooler temps ahead? Sure hope so….
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