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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 25, 2021 5:41:53 GMT -6
Your lefty side just got exposed. You and many others will never get it. I don't mask. Even on the fucking airplane I buy enough junk food snacks so I never have to sit there with a mask on. And for some fucking reason I am still alive. How the hell does that happen? Oh yah, that's right. I have an Immune system......LOL! So your saying everyone should live and behave like you do? Riiiight. LOL! We all have the ability to choose. Some will choose wisely and others voted for F'n Biden. . Hell No, I would be able to bust your balls about shit. Keep up the good work. LOL
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Post by Foggy on Aug 25, 2021 5:43:09 GMT -6
Unless you got underlying conditions.....(or maybe if your real young). the Vax seems to be the answer for MOST of us. I think you gotta have your head up your jazz if you dont get the vax.....my 2 cents. (the worst that can happen is that you be dead.....not likely....vs uncertain if you don't....just saying). And you may save some lives too? Duh!! EDIT: From a selfish standpoint I say: "The sooner you Vax....the sooner you and I can un-mask." Common man....no reasonable person (without underlying conditions) should not do this. My take. The list of vaccinated people I know who got the rona after the shot is growing. So what did the vaccine do for them? Oh yeah. I know. The rona didn’t make them real sick so the vaccine “helped” them recover. Except the rona doesn’t make most people real sick so how do we know the vaccine did anything? We don’t. We also can’t have honest discussion of treatment options like ivermectin because if you try you get silenced. So you say the vaccine is the answer when there isn’t even debate allowed. And I’m talking about debate between doctors. Being a lab rat for a drug trial is something you can do for money. That would be a normal trial for a drug that has been tested in mice and studied for years. Most people say that’s crazy. I’m not going to be a lab rat. But millions have volunteered to be that rat except the drug doesn’t have years of research a testing on mice. And some are now forced to be the rat under threat of losing their job. I’ll pass. And I’ll pass even when the CDC and the FDA declare it to be approved. Lucky for me the guy who runs our company got the shot and now is second guessing that decision. My work isn’t threatening me yet. Did not the FDA approve this on Monday? Did I miss something?? The market responded with an uptick.
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Post by smsmith on Aug 25, 2021 5:51:41 GMT -6
If I was under 50, not considered medically obese or had any other medical concerns, my employer and/or insurance company didn't require the shot, and I could fly as I chose...I likely wouldn't get it (yet anyway).
I'd say foggy would be nuts to NOT get the vax. Especially with a wife who is recovering from a major surgery. The last time I got a flu shot was when my late wife had cancer. The nurse who asked me if I had received my flu shot looked at me like I was nuts when I said no. She reminded me about decreased immune systems for those undergoing chemo...I had my flu shot in minutes.
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Post by Reagan on Aug 25, 2021 5:53:12 GMT -6
Yeah they did.
So what?
FDA is part of the same corrupt federal government that I don’t trust in any matter whatsoever. If you think our government gives a damn about truth, what is right or even you, I have a bridge on Arizona I’d like to sell you.
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Post by Reagan on Aug 25, 2021 5:56:22 GMT -6
If I was under 50, not considered medically obese or had any other medical concerns, my employer and/or insurance company didn't require the shot, and I could fly as I chose...I likely wouldn't get it (yet anyway). I'd say foggy would be nuts to NOT get the vax. Especially with a wife who is recovering from a major surgery. The last time I got a flu shot was when my late wife had cancer. The nurse who asked me if I had received my flu shot looked at me like I was nuts when I said no. She reminded me about decreased immune systems for those undergoing chemo...I had my flu shot in minutes. I don’t disagree with this. My dad is anti shot but got it due to moms cancer. Foggy is in a similar boat. Difference between them is dad doesn’t preach to me that I should get the shot because dad gets the big picture. Government is not our friend.
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Post by smsmith on Aug 25, 2021 5:59:32 GMT -6
If I was under 50, not considered medically obese or had any other medical concerns, my employer and/or insurance company didn't require the shot, and I could fly as I chose...I likely wouldn't get it (yet anyway). I'd say foggy would be nuts to NOT get the vax. Especially with a wife who is recovering from a major surgery. The last time I got a flu shot was when my late wife had cancer. The nurse who asked me if I had received my flu shot looked at me like I was nuts when I said no. She reminded me about decreased immune systems for those undergoing chemo...I had my flu shot in minutes. I don’t disagree with this. My dad is anti shot but got it due to moms cancer. Foggy is in a similar boat. Difference between them is dad doesn’t preach to me that I should get the shot because dad gets the big picture. Government is not our friend. You'll get no argument from me on that point. What irks the shit out of me is that the vax NEVER should have become a political issue. Like everything else in today's world, it was seen as an opportunity to further an agenda. That's just plain B.S.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 25, 2021 5:59:55 GMT -6
The list of vaccinated people I know who got the rona after the shot is growing. So what did the vaccine do for them? Oh yeah. I know. The rona didn’t make them real sick so the vaccine “helped” them recover. Except the rona doesn’t make most people real sick so how do we know the vaccine did anything? We don’t. We also can’t have honest discussion of treatment options like ivermectin because if you try you get silenced. So you say the vaccine is the answer when there isn’t even debate allowed. And I’m talking about debate between doctors. Being a lab rat for a drug trial is something you can do for money. That would be a normal trial for a drug that has been tested in mice and studied for years. Most people say that’s crazy. I’m not going to be a lab rat. But millions have volunteered to be that rat except the drug doesn’t have years of research a testing on mice. And some are now forced to be the rat under threat of losing their job. I’ll pass. And I’ll pass even when the CDC and the FDA declare it to be approved. Lucky for me the guy who runs our company got the shot and now is second guessing that decision. My work isn’t threatening me yet. Did not the FDA approve this on Monday? Did I miss something?? The market responded with an uptick. Approved by the FDA with no testing? When most vaccines take 10-20-30 years to get approved? All of the Past RNA drugs failed before so they could not get approval. This one gets approval in one year but yet no change in the make up. A rational person see this as very odd. Just sayin.
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Post by smsmith on Aug 25, 2021 6:02:42 GMT -6
Did not the FDA approve this on Monday? Did I miss something?? The market responded with an uptick. Approved by the FDA with no testing? When most vaccines take 10-20-30 years to get approved? All of the Past RNA drugs failed before so they could not get approval. This one gets approval in one year but yet no change in the make up. A rational person see this as very odd. Just sayin. The testing has been the ongoing "clinical trial". This has been BY FAR the largest global clinical trial ever
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 25, 2021 6:04:46 GMT -6
Approved by the FDA with no testing? When most vaccines take 10-20-30 years to get approved? All of the Past RNA drugs failed before so they could not get approval. This one gets approval in one year but yet no change in the make up. A rational person see this as very odd. Just sayin. The testing has been the ongoing "clinical trial". This has been BY FAR the largest global clinical trial ever This by far has been the shortest clinical trial so far. And now hundreds of thousands if not millions of people are showing up with the Covid after the shot tells the story of how it’s working.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 25, 2021 6:07:48 GMT -6
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Post by smsmith on Aug 25, 2021 6:09:28 GMT -6
The testing has been the ongoing "clinical trial". This has been BY FAR the largest global clinical trial ever This by far has been the shortest clinical trial so far. And now hundreds of thousands if not millions of people are showing up with the Covid after the shot tells the story of how it’s working. Shortest time wise, most likely. When you make up for that with 100's of millions of doses I imagine the numbers start working out. I believe in the future we'll find out that a great number of the vaccines given weren't actually vaccines...they were saline. The gooberment will tell us that was done to insure a control group that could be followed accurately and consistently. As far as 100s of thousands of breakthrough cases go, you'd have to show me the proof. There's lots of them, but I'm unaware of that many. It's just another matter of the media using a situation to get people worked up. The vax was never intended to keep us from getting the 'rona, just to keep us from dying from it.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 25, 2021 6:12:34 GMT -6
This by far has been the shortest clinical trial so far. And now hundreds of thousands if not millions of people are showing up with the Covid after the shot tells the story of how it’s working. Shortest time wise, most likely. When you make up for that with 100's of millions of doses I imagine the numbers start working out. I believe in the future we'll find out that a great number of the vaccines given weren't actually vaccines...they were saline. The gooberment will tell us that was done to insure a control group that could be followed accurately and consistently. As far as 100s of thousands of breakthrough cases go, you'd have to show me the proof. There's lots of them, but I'm unaware of that many. It's just another matter of the media using a situation to get people worked up. The vax was never intended to keep us from getting the 'rona, just to keep us from dying from it. I can’t believe you turned into a vaxor just because a crooked FDA approved a fake vaccine for a crooked drug company. Follow the money Stu. This has nothing to do with vaccines.
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Post by smsmith on Aug 25, 2021 6:21:16 GMT -6
Shortest time wise, most likely. When you make up for that with 100's of millions of doses I imagine the numbers start working out. I believe in the future we'll find out that a great number of the vaccines given weren't actually vaccines...they were saline. The gooberment will tell us that was done to insure a control group that could be followed accurately and consistently. As far as 100s of thousands of breakthrough cases go, you'd have to show me the proof. There's lots of them, but I'm unaware of that many. It's just another matter of the media using a situation to get people worked up. The vax was never intended to keep us from getting the 'rona, just to keep us from dying from it. I can’t believe you turned into a vaxor just because a crooked FDA approved a fake vaccine for a crooked drug company. Follow the money Stu. This has nothing to do with vaccines. yes, it has something to do with vaccines. If you don't believe Covid is real, then there's really no reason to discuss it. I believe Covid is real. Has it killed as many as the press wants us to believe? I doubt it. Is it worth running around in fear? No. Do the vast majority of people who get it survive? Yes. Do the vaccine makers make a shitton of money off the vax? Yep. That's how capitalism works. Do the medical companies who come up with new cancer treatments make boatloads of money? Yep, and that's great because without them more people will die of cancer. I'm not a vaxxer or an anti-vaxxer in regards to the Covid. I attempt to evaluate the information and apply it to my own life and make my own choice. Pretty much what I do with most medical issues. I enjoyed the hell out of tobacco for years, but came to the conclusion it was awfully retarded to continue to use the stuff. Covid is a medical issue, not a political one. If you think this is the way the gooberment came up with to implant us with some "doomsday" controlling shit I'd say that's highly unlikely. There are far, far more efficient ways to get that done and we'd never even know it was happening.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 25, 2021 6:27:57 GMT -6
I can’t believe you turned into a vaxor just because a crooked FDA approved a fake vaccine for a crooked drug company. Follow the money Stu. This has nothing to do with vaccines. yes, it has something to do with vaccines. If you don't believe Covid is real, then there's really no reason to discuss it. I believe Covid is real. Has it killed as many as the press wants us to believe? I doubt it. Is it worth running around in fear? No. Do the vast majority of people who get it survive? Yes. Do the vaccine makers make a shitton of money off the vax? Yep. That's how capitalism works. Do the medical companies who come up with new cancer treatments make boatloads of money? Yep, and that's great because without them more people will die of cancer. I'm not a vaxxer or an anti-vaxxer in regards to the Covid. I attempt to evaluate the information and apply it to my own life and make my own choice. Pretty much what I do with most medical issues. I enjoyed the hell out of tobacco for years, but came to the conclusion it was awfully retarded to continue to use the stuff. Covid is a medical issue, not a political one. If you think this is the way the gooberment came up with to implant us with some "doomsday" controlling shit I'd say that's highly unlikely. There are far, far more efficient ways to get that done and we'd never even know it was happening. You can say your not a vaxor as you wait a week to get vaxed. Is Covid real, no idea, my immune system has been working great for the past year and a half and I don’t watch the news.
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Post by smsmith on Aug 25, 2021 6:32:09 GMT -6
yes, it has something to do with vaccines. If you don't believe Covid is real, then there's really no reason to discuss it. I believe Covid is real. Has it killed as many as the press wants us to believe? I doubt it. Is it worth running around in fear? No. Do the vast majority of people who get it survive? Yes. Do the vaccine makers make a shitton of money off the vax? Yep. That's how capitalism works. Do the medical companies who come up with new cancer treatments make boatloads of money? Yep, and that's great because without them more people will die of cancer. I'm not a vaxxer or an anti-vaxxer in regards to the Covid. I attempt to evaluate the information and apply it to my own life and make my own choice. Pretty much what I do with most medical issues. I enjoyed the hell out of tobacco for years, but came to the conclusion it was awfully retarded to continue to use the stuff. Covid is a medical issue, not a political one. If you think this is the way the gooberment came up with to implant us with some "doomsday" controlling shit I'd say that's highly unlikely. There are far, far more efficient ways to get that done and we'd never even know it was happening. You can say your not a vaxor as you wait a week to get vaxed. Is Covid real, no idea, my immune system has been working great for the past year and a half and I don’t watch the news. Two weeks. Did I tell you to get vaxxed? Nope. I don't give a shit one way or the other. If BLB had told his employer to pound sand and got fired for not getting vaxxed it wouldn't matter to me one bit. You are each adults and can make your own decisions. This is where I get lost. Why does it matter to anyone else if I make a decision to do or not do something medically? The vax never should have become this political issue.
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