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Post by biglakebass on Dec 2, 2021 20:16:49 GMT -6
Parents are where?
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Post by wklman on Dec 2, 2021 20:55:00 GMT -6
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Post by biglakebass on Dec 2, 2021 21:28:21 GMT -6
Oh, he isnt in MN.
Well, I wish your family the best.
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Post by wklman on Dec 2, 2021 22:26:55 GMT -6
Oh, he isnt in MN. Well, I wish your family the best. Thx mark. |
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Post by caveman on Dec 3, 2021 4:53:41 GMT -6
Vax or no vax, it doesn’t matter. If you get it you get it. If you get sick or don’t get sick, who cares. If you die you die. It’s called life. I watch my neighbor here in AZ hiding again. It’s been almost 2 years he is inside other than grocery shopping. What a waste of 2 years. Sad, really sad. Exactly! No one knows what's going to happen tomorrow. What kind of life is it sitting at home wasting away in fear. Fuck that. If I die, I die. I live like there is no covid.I go visit people. Travel. Eat out. Everything I did before covid I still do. There is absolutely no way I'm getting vaccinated for it. Both my parents are recovering from covid. My grandfather is in the hospital with covid and near death. My neighbors mom in mn died from covid. Guess what they all had in common? Yep, they were all vaccinated. A while back I posted a video of two inventors of vaccines who thought that vaccinating everyone for this virus was a terrible idea. Basically the vaccine gave a very thin line of protection, where as natural immunity gave a very wide area of protection. The vaccine thus doesn't do shit against variants, where as our natural immunity was more likely to also help us with variants. They did think that (only) the vulnerable should be vaccinated, but everyone else should not be to give us some sort of herd immunity. |
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 3, 2021 6:11:12 GMT -6
Exactly! No one knows what's going to happen tomorrow. What kind of life is it sitting at home wasting away in fear. Fuck that. If I die, I die. I live like there is no covid.I go visit people. Travel. Eat out. Everything I did before covid I still do. There is absolutely no way I'm getting vaccinated for it. Both my parents are recovering from covid. My grandfather is in the hospital with covid and near death. My neighbors mom in mn died from covid. Guess what they all had in common? Yep, they were all vaccinated. A while back I posted a video of two inventors of vaccines who thought that vaccinating everyone for this virus was a terrible idea. Basically the vaccine gave a very thin line of protection, where as natural immunity gave a very wide area of protection. The vaccine thus doesn't do shit against variants, where as our natural immunity was more likely to also help us with variants. They did think that (only) the vulnerable should be vaccinated, but everyone else should not be to give us some sort of herd immunity. I have had the same thoughts. The various ‘experts’ have differing opinions. ‘ Vaccine may give longer lasting immunity. Natural immunity has stimulation of more parts of the immune system. Vaccine after natural infection gives the best immunity. Vaccine after infection seems to diminish the immunity.‘ Just some examples of contradicting things I have read and heard. |
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 3, 2021 6:13:13 GMT -6
Vax or no vax, it doesn’t matter. If you get it you get it. If you get sick or don’t get sick, who cares. If you die you die. It’s called life. I watch my neighbor here in AZ hiding again. It’s been almost 2 years he is inside other than grocery shopping. What a waste of 2 years. Sad, really sad. Exactly! No one knows what's going to happen tomorrow. What kind of life is it sitting at home wasting away in fear. Fuck that. If I die, I die. I live like there is no covid.I go visit people. Travel. Eat out. Everything I did before covid I still do. There is absolutely no way I'm getting vaccinated for it. Both my parents are recovering from covid. My grandfather is in the hospital with covid and near death. My neighbors mom in mn died from covid. Guess what they all had in common? Yep, they were all vaccinated. All we can do is pray for them. We aren’t really in charge anyway. |
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Post by Tooln on Dec 3, 2021 7:23:52 GMT -6
Exactly! No one knows what's going to happen tomorrow. What kind of life is it sitting at home wasting away in fear. Fuck that. If I die, I die. I live like there is no covid.I go visit people. Travel. Eat out. Everything I did before covid I still do. There is absolutely no way I'm getting vaccinated for it. Both my parents are recovering from covid. My grandfather is in the hospital with covid and near death. My neighbors mom in mn died from covid. Guess what they all had in common? Yep, they were all vaccinated. A while back I posted a video of two inventors of vaccines who thought that vaccinating everyone for this virus was a terrible idea. Basically the vaccine gave a very thin line of protection, where as natural immunity gave a very wide area of protection. The vaccine thus doesn't do shit against variants, where as our natural immunity was more likely to also help us with variants. They did think that (only) the vulnerable should be vaccinated, but everyone else should not be to give us some sort of herd immunity. One thing I'm thinking of about the people who got the jab. Now your natural immune system isn't doing what it should. Maybe I'm wrong but that's my line of thought. |
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Post by Freeborn on Dec 3, 2021 7:38:54 GMT -6
A while back I posted a video of two inventors of vaccines who thought that vaccinating everyone for this virus was a terrible idea. Basically the vaccine gave a very thin line of protection, where as natural immunity gave a very wide area of protection. The vaccine thus doesn't do shit against variants, where as our natural immunity was more likely to also help us with variants. They did think that (only) the vulnerable should be vaccinated, but everyone else should not be to give us some sort of herd immunity. One thing I'm thinking of about the people who got the jab. Now your natural immune system isn't doing what it should. Maybe I'm wrong but that's my line of thought. Doesn't that throw out about 100 years of vaccination history? Vaccinations are designed to get your natural immune system to recognize a virus and protect you from it. A vaccine does not inhibit your immune system from reacting to a virus. There is allot of miss-information on the COVID vaccination but in the end its a personal decision, do what you want but then accept the consequences. |
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Post by smsmith on Dec 3, 2021 7:50:33 GMT -6
Sooner or later we're all going to get covid in some variant or another (or maybe multiple times to multiple variants). If you happen to be one of the people who are more susceptible to the virus, you may get really sick and/or die. That's whether you're vaxxed or not. Maybe in the next few years (decades?) there will be some actual science showing the genetic factors that make some people more susceptible to the virus.
For some the vax will likely keep you out of the hospital. For others, the vax will do absolutely nothing. I'm pretty sure "science" knows that to be fact right now, but nobody will say it due to "political science".
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Dec 3, 2021 8:00:56 GMT -6
Sooner or later we're all going to get covid in some variant or another (or maybe multiple times to multiple variants). If you happen to be one of the people who are more susceptible to the virus, you may get really sick and/or die. That's whether you're vaxxed or not. Maybe in the next few years (decades?) there will be some actual science showing the genetic factors that make some people more susceptible to the virus. For some the vax will likely keep you out of the hospital. For others, the vax will do absolutely nothing. I'm pretty sure "science" knows that to be fact right now, but nobody will say it due to "political science". Science? The left wing version of covid science or the right wing version? 180 degree differences in opinion on this subject. Until bodies are laying in the streets like the Ebola crisis in Africa will I think Covid is a problem its made out to be. |
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Post by Reagan on Dec 3, 2021 8:06:18 GMT -6
Sooner or later we're all going to get covid in some variant or another (or maybe multiple times to multiple variants). If you happen to be one of the people who are more susceptible to the virus, you may get really sick and/or die. That's whether you're vaxxed or not. Maybe in the next few years (decades?) there will be some actual science showing the genetic factors that make some people more susceptible to the virus. For some the vax will likely keep you out of the hospital. For others, the vax will do absolutely nothing. I'm pretty sure "science" knows that to be fact right now, but nobody will say it due to "political science". The next person that tells me they follow the science I will reply, “what science, political science”. Thanks. |
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Dec 3, 2021 8:15:41 GMT -6
What is taking place right now is a vaccine trial, not a vaccine. How it was developed so fast, when most take 10-15 years or more tells me it’s not an experimental trial I want to be part of when there is no recourse if something goes wrong down the road. To many health care providers being silenced when they are bringing out some of the after effects of the shots one and two. I don’t need Self inflicted Afib or self inflicted blood clots that are now showing up. And who knows what else may develop for problems down the road. Let’s face it, very few people are dead from straight Covid in the US. Hardly any 60 and under. The benefits of these shots at my age do not out way the risks from it as I see it.
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 3, 2021 8:21:32 GMT -6
Sooner or later we're all going to get covid in some variant or another (or maybe multiple times to multiple variants). If you happen to be one of the people who are more susceptible to the virus, you may get really sick and/or die. That's whether you're vaxxed or not. Maybe in the next few years (decades?) there will be some actual science showing the genetic factors that make some people more susceptible to the virus. For some the vax will likely keep you out of the hospital. For others, the vax will do absolutely nothing. I'm pretty sure "science" knows that to be fact right now, but nobody will say it due to "political science". They have all ready seen some sub groups in different parts of the world being more susceptible. This may change with variants. |
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Post by badgerfowl on Dec 3, 2021 8:27:15 GMT -6
What is taking place right now is a vaccine trial, not a vaccine. How it was developed so fast, when most take 10-15 years or more tells me it’s not an experimental trial I want to be part of when there is no recourse if something goes wrong down the road. To many health care providers being silenced when they are bringing out some of the after effects of the shots one and two. I don’t need Self inflicted Afib or self inflicted blood clots that are now showing up. And who knows what else may develop for problems down the road. Let’s face it, very few people are dead from straight Covid in the US. Hardly any 60 and under. The benefits of these shots at my age do not out way the risks from it as I see it. Exactly. Vaccines are supposed to prevent an illness. This does not. It’s a flu shot. |
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