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Post by Tooln on Dec 3, 2021 10:31:33 GMT -6
One thing I'm thinking of about the people who got the jab. Now your natural immune system isn't doing what it should. Maybe I'm wrong but that's my line of thought. Doesn't that throw out about 100 years of vaccination history? Vaccinations are designed to get your natural immune system to recognize a virus and protect you from it. A vaccine does not inhibit your immune system from reacting to a virus. There is allot of miss-information on the COVID vaccination but in the end its a personal decision, do what you want but then accept the consequences. True on all points but remember this is not a TRUE vaccine. A true vaccine takes years to be developed, proven safe & effective.
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Post by Tooln on Dec 3, 2021 10:34:08 GMT -6
What is taking place right now is a vaccine trial, not a vaccine. How it was developed so fast, when most take 10-15 years or more tells me it’s not an experimental trial I want to be part of when there is no recourse if something goes wrong down the road. To many health care providers being silenced when they are bringing out some of the after effects of the shots one and two. I don’t need Self inflicted Afib or self inflicted blood clots that are now showing up. And who knows what else may develop for problems down the road. Let’s face it, very few people are dead from straight Covid in the US. Hardly any 60 and under. The benefits of these shots at my age do not out way the risks from it as I see it. Well said John.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Dec 3, 2021 10:41:29 GMT -6
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Post by smsmith on Dec 3, 2021 12:39:12 GMT -6
One thing I'm thinking of about the people who got the jab. Now your natural immune system isn't doing what it should. Maybe I'm wrong but that's my line of thought. Doesn't that throw out about 100 years of vaccination history? Vaccinations are designed to get your natural immune system to recognize a virus and protect you from it. A vaccine does not inhibit your immune system from reacting to a virus. There is allot of miss-information on the COVID vaccination but in the end its a personal decision, do what you want but then accept the consequences. Ultimately, this is the same thing that can be said for a great number of health decisions. Want to be overweight/obese? Go ahead, just be prepared to deal with a shortened life due to likely heart disease (still the number 1 killer in the U.S.). Want to smoke? Go ahead, just be prepared to deal with lung cancer, emphysema, and/or COPD. Want to drink a case of beer a day? Go ahead, just be prepared for liver disease/cancer. I suppose the difference is that those ^^^ decisions only directly impact the health of the individual. If (big if) we ever get a covid vaccine that stops the vaccinated from being able to spread the virus, then a case could be made for mandatory vaccines. It would become an issue of public health. When your decisions only impact you, no problem. When your decisions impact others, then it could be a problem. I got vaxxed over the summer with the idea my immune system would be "boosted" for the cold/flu season. Come spring, I'll likely get the booster. I'm overweight, my diet isn't awesome, I smoked for several decades, and I probably drink too much. You're right Jerry, we all make choices and we all deal with the consequences.
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 3, 2021 13:58:50 GMT -6
Talked to my Dr. of Pharmacy BIL's yesterday and discussed COVID in Minnesota. Hospitals are full and about 25% of cases are patients who previously had been vaccinated for COVID. They recommend the current booster shot and they believe COVID is with us forever. Most likely an annual COVID vaccination will be the norm. They also indicate reactions differ greatly between patients but they say its like playing Russian Roulette with your health. I certainly agree with that part. This new variant sounds like our current "vaccines" may be less effective. I don't believe I'll be getting any boosters any time soon. Did you change your mind on the boosters? I suspect that in the near future, these current vaccines will quietly be left out of discussions, as the newest and next variants march along.
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Post by smsmith on Dec 3, 2021 14:07:00 GMT -6
I certainly agree with that part. This new variant sounds like our current "vaccines" may be less effective. I don't believe I'll be getting any boosters any time soon. Did you change your mind on the boosters? I suspect that in the near future, these current vaccines will quietly be left out of discussions, as the newest and next variants march along. 6 months or so isn't that soon in my mind. Seems they want even the fully vaxxed to get a booster now, not later. I'm guessing by spring the available boosters will not be the same as they are now.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Dec 3, 2021 14:46:36 GMT -6
So you guys are afraid of dying early? So you want to be a stumbling, heading conking, pants shitting, stroke victim, blind wheelchair bound old fuck not able to tie your shoes or change your clothes like many in their 80’s. Fuck it, live your lives and move on.
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Post by smsmith on Dec 3, 2021 14:52:47 GMT -6
So you guys are afraid of dying early? So you want to be a stumbling, heading conking, pants shitting, stroke victim, blind wheelchair bound old fuck not able to tie your shoes or change your clothes like many in their 80’s. Fuck it, live your lives and move on. Dying in my 50s or 60s isn't high on my list of things to do, especially if it can possibly be prevented.
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Post by Freeborn on Dec 3, 2021 16:43:13 GMT -6
Just for additional information, my wife and I got our boosters this morning and so far no side affects.
On a different note, I gave my mother who soon will be 94 an IPAD this fall and I arranged for my folks to get internet and internet phone in addition to their cable. we have already had 2 Facetime calls and my mom uses the IPAD to go to church. Myself and a local lady church friend (Annie) have trained my mother. I guess you can teach old people new tricks. Dad still drives and other than my folks are very old their still living and enjoying life.
Watching my mom smile and laugh on Facetime, priceless!
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 3, 2021 16:54:46 GMT -6
Just for additional information, my wife and I got our boosters this morning and so far no side affects. On a different note, I gave my mother who soon will be 94 an IPAD this fall and I arranged for my folks to get internet and internet phone in addition to their cable. we have already had 2 Facetime calls and my mom uses the IPAD to go to church. Myself and a local lady church friend (Annie) have trained my mother. I guess you can teach old people new tricks. Dad still drives and other than my folks are very old their still living and enjoying life. Watching my mom smile and laugh on Facetime, priceless! That’s great, Jerry. Keep in touch with them. My parents are long gone!
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Post by Reagan on Dec 3, 2021 17:04:36 GMT -6
Just learned that one of my customers is forcing the entire workforce to get the jab by January 1st.
My champion in this account is refusing and will be resigning at the end of the month. 30 year employee thrown away over a vaccine that is experimental and confirmed to not work in many cases.
Fuckin Brandon.
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Post by chummer16 on Dec 3, 2021 17:51:12 GMT -6
Just for additional information, my wife and I got our boosters this morning and so far no side affects. On a different note, I gave my mother who soon will be 94 an IPAD this fall and I arranged for my folks to get internet and internet phone in addition to their cable. we have already had 2 Facetime calls and my mom uses the IPAD to go to church. Myself and a local lady church friend (Annie) have trained my mother. I guess you can teach old people new tricks. Dad still drives and other than my folks are very old their still living and enjoying life. Watching my mom smile and laugh on Facetime, priceless! Face time is great. Only way my kids got to see their mom for a lot of this year. Hospitals don’t allow visitors but they got to talk and see her several times a day.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Dec 3, 2021 19:23:34 GMT -6
It’s already here. Lol!
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Post by buckvelvet on Dec 8, 2021 12:36:00 GMT -6
So my aunts Dad, I posted about. They refused to give him therapeutics like ivermectin, vitamins etc…
They only would do ventilator, died this morning…
Dude that was perfectly health pre booster shot.
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Post by wklman on Dec 8, 2021 14:09:29 GMT -6
My grandpa passed this morning as well. Covid ruined his lungs, and the rest of his body shut down. He died in his sleep about as peaceful as you can. I had the privilege of helping put his body on the gurney. It's not a thing I'd want to do again real soon.
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