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Post by Sandbur on Jan 21, 2021 6:34:36 GMT -6
At the USDA zone 3-4 junction. a friend recently asked for my recommendations. This is in the presence of considerable cedar apple rust. I have other varieties under consideration and some other notes.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 21, 2021 6:38:28 GMT -6
Kerr has not been a tall enough tree on B118 on my soils for deer use. The tree on my best soils is slightly taller. Perhaps they should not have been allowed to fruit as soon.
Golden Hornet also appears to be a good winter feed source and seems to be hardy.
I favor apple crabs over larger apples for deer. I have a couple of seedlings that might fill that gap.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 21, 2021 6:40:00 GMT -6
Another winter feed source might be what we call the Courthouse Crab. It needs a little more evaluation for winter hardiness. It is some sort of rootstock crab. Several of us have scion from this one.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 21, 2021 6:41:10 GMT -6
If you are in Minnesota or Wisconsin, I would plant a Chestnut Crab within bow range of your opening day bow stand.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 21, 2021 6:42:38 GMT -6
For winter survival of the deer herd, plant those late dropping crabs on the south or southeast side of a conifer stand or at least 3-4 rows of a conifer windbreak.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 21, 2021 6:44:30 GMT -6
I suspect that crab apples will produce a crop about every other year and sometimes more often with little care. They might also tolerate a pH of .5 less than standard apples.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 21, 2021 6:46:47 GMT -6
At the USDA zone 3-4 junction. a friend recently asked for my recommendations. This is in the presence of considerable cedar apple rust. I have other varieties under consideration and some other notes. Norland often drops in Early to mid August and appears to be quite hardy. The Trailman had a bit of fireblight this year. Centennial Crab might be a good substitute for this time period, however on B118, it is too small for a deer tree.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 21, 2021 6:49:30 GMT -6
At the USDA zone 3-4 junction. a friend recently asked for my recommendations. This is in the presence of considerable cedar apple rust. I have other varieties under consideration and some other notes. Norland often drops in Early to mid August and appears to be quite hardy. The Trailman had a bit of fireblight this year. Centennial Crab might be a good substitute for this time period, however on B118, it is too small for a deer tree. Grafted Dolgo(not seedlings), usually drop starting about Labor Day and sometimes holds fruit into the winter. Chestnut Crab Starts soon after that and often drops fruit over about a 3-4 week period. Both trees are easy to grow and hardy.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 21, 2021 6:55:23 GMT -6
Haralson is hardy and quite disease free. Haralred might also work.
Firecracker Crab and Winter Redflesh might be good substitutes to follow Chestnut Crab. They would provide smaller apples than Haralson and might be preferable to deer.
Frostbite could work for this time period, but it has shown a lot of CAR. It still produced fruit.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 21, 2021 7:01:55 GMT -6
Feb. 1, 2020, deer were still feeding on crab apples.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 21, 2021 7:04:38 GMT -6
Some years, you may have deer feed into March and maybe even April.
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Post by sd51555 on Jan 21, 2021 7:08:05 GMT -6
I've been getting tree catalogs the past week outta nowhere. Been thumbing through them as it seems the real mail isn't getting through anymore. I keep fighting the urge to buy more.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 21, 2021 7:15:09 GMT -6
I've been getting tree catalogs the past week outta nowhere. Been thumbing through them as it seems the real mail isn't getting through anymore. I keep fighting the urge to buy more. Graft, don’t buy, especially if you don’t know the rootstock. Or one forum member might graft a few for you. You are well into zone 3 and some of these might not be hardy.
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Post by badbrad on Jan 21, 2021 7:30:36 GMT -6
I've been getting tree catalogs the past week outta nowhere. Been thumbing through them as it seems the real mail isn't getting through anymore. I keep fighting the urge to buy more.
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Post by sd51555 on Jan 21, 2021 7:42:25 GMT -6
I've been getting tree catalogs the past week outta nowhere. Been thumbing through them as it seems the real mail isn't getting through anymore. I keep fighting the urge to buy more. Graft, don’t buy, especially if you don’t know the rootstock. Or one forum member might graft a few for you. You are well into zone 3 and some of these might not be hardy. Planting hardy rootstocks is the only thing that's ever worked up there. I still don't really have any super spots set up for apple trees. I gotta get some more elevated spots set up this summer if I've got the time. I think you guys that are good with the blade have a bright side hustle available to you in either grafting trees or collecting drug money from lowlifes. I'd gladly write a check for someone to graft a grip of trees that are ready to go.
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