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Post by Bwoods11 on Aug 1, 2022 12:09:09 GMT -6
My neighbor’s grandson shot two last year. I guess that would be the youth hunt. He was excited and it didn’t hurt us at all. I wouldn't care if folks around here shot some does in EA. My objection to the hunt is that it could screw up bowhunting for a period of time as well as screwing up activity before the regular firearm season. With the lack of participation, I think EA should just go away. My biggest beef with it is the timing. Same weekend as the youth hunt? Can't they just have the weekend to themselves? Also, the public land in my area gets hit pretty hard, and #1--no excess does on public anyway, and #2--it takes away the ground from pheasant and duck hunters?
I wish it would go away! I know of a few groups in that Osakis/Rose City area that shoot a bunch of does for meat...I don't know. We have a long archery season, 9 day gun season, and 16 day muzzy already!
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Post by smsmith on Aug 1, 2022 12:13:38 GMT -6
I wouldn't care if folks around here shot some does in EA. My objection to the hunt is that it could screw up bowhunting for a period of time as well as screwing up activity before the regular firearm season. With the lack of participation, I think EA should just go away. My biggest beef with it is the timing. Same weekend as the youth hunt? Can't they just have the weekend to themselves? Also, the public land in my area gets hit pretty hard, and #1--no excess does on public anyway, and #2--it takes away the ground from pheasant and duck hunters? I'm even less of a fan of the youth hunt than I am of EA. Let's see some longitudinal studies showing that the youth hunt does anything for hunter retention, then maybe I'd give it some level of support. Most guys I know who have hunted their entire lives never participated in any "youth hunts"
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Post by Sandbur on Aug 1, 2022 12:17:20 GMT -6
I wouldn't care if folks around here shot some does in EA. My objection to the hunt is that it could screw up bowhunting for a period of time as well as screwing up activity before the regular firearm season. With the lack of participation, I think EA should just go away. My biggest beef with it is the timing. Same weekend as the youth hunt? Can't they just have the weekend to themselves? Also, the public land in my area gets hit pretty hard, and #1--no excess does on public anyway, and #2--it takes away the ground from pheasant and duck hunters?
I wish it would go away! I know of a few groups in that Osakis/Rose City area that shoot a bunch of does for meat...I don't know. We have a long archery season, 9 day gun season, and 16 day muzzy already! With separate weekends, you would have two more days of firearm season.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Aug 1, 2022 12:29:57 GMT -6
Art--I know I don't like that either!
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Post by caveman on Aug 1, 2022 14:04:27 GMT -6
The complete 2022 MN zone map is shown on each of those detailed reports, too. What is the black outlined zone? Future elk range? Moose area? The one zone that I had chosen for the 'detailed report' that I took a picture of. It's a zone that I had started deer hunting in when it had a 5 deer limit. Now it's bucks only. f'n wolves and winter, never were that many deer hunters that we ever saw.
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Post by Sandbur on Aug 1, 2022 14:44:27 GMT -6
What is the black outlined zone? Future elk range? Moose area? The one zone that I had chosen for the 'detailed report' that I took a picture of. It's a zone that I had started deer hunting in when it had a 5 deer limit. Now it's bucks only. f'n wolves and winter, never were that many deer hunters that we ever saw. When that was a five deer limit, were they trying to manage for moose and then they shifted lines a bit and decided to try and increase deer numbers? I remember something about discussions of deer numbers versus moose range/ numbers.
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Post by caveman on Aug 1, 2022 15:05:50 GMT -6
The one zone that I had chosen for the 'detailed report' that I took a picture of. It's a zone that I had started deer hunting in when it had a 5 deer limit. Now it's bucks only. f'n wolves and winter, never were that many deer hunters that we ever saw. When that was a five deer limit, were they trying to manage for moose and then they shifted lines a bit and decided to try and increase deer numbers? I remember something about discussions of deer numbers versus moose range/ numbers. That would have been before the moose crisis.
There were just boatloads of deer there. Great aspen clear cuts, many mild winters in a row, and not many wolves yet, made it so. One very bad winter just decimated the deer in that area. Went from seeing 100 deer in a weekend of grouse hunting to being lucky that you see 1 deer in a single year. The deer have never rebounded. Suppose the wolves then switched to the moose. And then the moose crisis was identified. Now the wolves keep the deer and moose numbers low.
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Post by Sandbur on Aug 1, 2022 17:32:39 GMT -6
When that was a five deer limit, were they trying to manage for moose and then they shifted lines a bit and decided to try and increase deer numbers? I remember something about discussions of deer numbers versus moose range/ numbers. That would have been before the moose crisis.
There were just boatloads of deer there. Great aspen clear cuts, many mild winters in a row, and not many wolves yet, made it so. One very bad winter just decimated the deer in that area. Went from seeing 100 deer in a weekend of grouse hunting to being lucky that you see 1 deer in a single year. The deer have never rebounded. Suppose the wolves then switched to the moose. And then the moose crisis was identified. Now the wolves keep the deer and moose numbers low.
I saw similar things with deer in the north end of 169. I imagine the cWD has changed the boundaries of that area.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Aug 21, 2022 7:58:18 GMT -6
Is the 3 deer limit justified in your area ? I’m not sure it should be 3 but after taking a walk near the food plots and corn fields this weekend , the amount of deer pressure on the corn 🌽 is as high as I’ve seen. I’m ok with it this year. We are going to try to take a 3-5 does for the freezer in Mn.
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Post by biglakebass on Aug 21, 2022 10:11:13 GMT -6
Is a 3 deer limit justified? The fact is such a small percentage would ever take 3, i dont know that it matters much. I know few that even want to fill all their parties 1st tag. Most parties will party tag and never even buy a bonus tag. So 3 deer or 5 deer limit just doest come into play much. Its been stated some may take extra deer than in years past due to high meat prices. I can see that. But me, give me beef, cost is not a concern at this time.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Aug 21, 2022 11:48:49 GMT -6
Is a 3 deer limit justified? The fact is such a small percentage would ever take 3, i dont know that it matters much. I know few that even want to fill all their parties 1st tag. Most parties will party tag and never even buy a bonus tag. So 3 deer or 5 deer limit just doest come into play much. Its been stated some may take extra deer than in years past due to high meat prices. I can see that. But me, give me beef, cost is not a concern at this time. A 2 deer limit and a landowner tag in counties with high deer populations might be a much better option. There’s really no public land that I know of that is overrun with deer. I guess I can see the 3 deer limit in parts of the metro ?
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Post by Sandbur on Aug 21, 2022 13:09:31 GMT -6
Is a 3 deer limit justified? The fact is such a small percentage would ever take 3, i dont know that it matters much. I know few that even want to fill all their parties 1st tag. Most parties will party tag and never even buy a bonus tag. So 3 deer or 5 deer limit just doest come into play much. Its been stated some may take extra deer than in years past due to high meat prices. I can see that. But me, give me beef, cost is not a concern at this time. A 2 deer limit and a landowner tag in counties with high deer populations might be a much better option. There’s really no public land that I know of that is overrun with deer. I guess I can see the 3 deer limit in parts of the metro ? The landowner tag means that your land is open to the public. I gladly buy a tag rather than to be on a list.
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Post by caveman on Aug 21, 2022 14:51:21 GMT -6
Is a 3 deer limit justified? The fact is such a small percentage would ever take 3, i dont know that it matters much.I know few that even want to fill all their parties 1st tag. Most parties will party tag and never even buy a bonus tag.So 3 deer or 5 deer limit just doest come into play much.Its been stated some may take extra deer than in years past due to high meat prices. I can see that. But me, give me beef, cost is not a concern at this time. Yep.
I, a single person, ate 3 deer last year. Looking to get 4 this year. Part of that very small percentage. Most other hunters I know eat less than 1 deer a year by choice.
(I know the EA season is frowned upon, but if anyone is wanting to have a doe or two shot during the early antlerless season please send me a private message.)
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Post by Foggy on Aug 21, 2022 16:10:10 GMT -6
I'm gonna have to hire a Philadelphia lawyer to interpret the damn regulations this year. Wow....the most complicated freaking document I have ever seen. They have gotten worse every year. I still dont know if we have an early doe season or not after reading the thing a few times. At some point.....a guy my age just feels like: "screw it.....I'm gonna do what I want and the state can pound sand". I never shoot enough deer to get close to the bag limit anyway. I really hate to see those youth seasons and the vets special hunts and the folks over 84? ? I mean WTF are they thinking? If this level of confusion continues....they will just drive more folks away from hunting. Maybe that's the plan? ......and the regs are available in Somalia, and Spanish and Hmon? What is wrong with English? If you can't do English you cannot have a license?? Incentive? My 2 cents.
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Post by caveman on Aug 21, 2022 16:53:54 GMT -6
I'm gonna have to hire a Philadelphia lawyer to interpret the damn regulations this year. Wow....the most complicated freaking document I have ever seen. They have gotten worse every year. I still dont know if we have an early doe season or not after reading the thing a few times. At some point.....a guy my age just feels like: "screw it.....I'm gonna do what I want and the state can pound sand". I never shoot enough deer to get close to the bag limit anyway. I really hate to see those youth seasons and the vets special hunts and the folks over 84? ? I mean WTF are they thinking? If this level of confusion continues....they will just drive more folks away from hunting. Maybe that's the plan? ......and the regs are available in Somalia, and Spanish and Hmon? What is wrong with English? If you can't do English you cannot have a license?? Incentive? My 2 cents.
If you're in the 604: Mandatory CWD testing Nov. 5-6 Voluntary CWD testing remainder of all seasons Carcass movement restrictions in effect Designation: Three-deer limit
Seasons Archery: Sept. 17 - Dec. 31 Youth: Oct. 20 - Oct. 23 Early Antlerless: Oct. 20 - Oct. 23 Firearm A: Nov. 5 - Nov. 20 Firearm B: N/A Muzzleloader: Nov. 26 - Dec. 11
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