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Post by Foggy on Jan 28, 2017 20:52:28 GMT -6
So.....I have been posting about having a low-cost camp building for a while now. Most recently I have found some pretty nice park model campers that have expandable slides.....for a price of about $8000. These are interesting to me.....as I then have a bathroom and all fixtures.......and a kitchen with all appliances......and great areas to hang out with sofas and recliners.......and all the assorted stuff that goes along with campers. (outside showers and kitchens, tv's and stereo, and awning.....yadda, yadda)
So.....I started looking at sewers and holding tanks. (I have water and electric). I can buy a 500 gallon plastic sewer tank for about $600.......and bury it myself for a couple hundred rental in a 1/2 day rental of a small track hoe.
I then contacted a sewer company to get their rates and they gave me this:
Tom, You probably have three options: One – if the park model has a holding tank on it, we offer RV pumping on a weekly route, it usually costs about 60.00 Two – install a holding tank, 1000-1500 gallons, estimated cost around 3000.00 Three – install a two bedroom septic system with tank and drain field, estimated cost 6000.00-9000.00 depending on the site Current pumping cost is 225.00 Thank you, Let me know if you need anything else. Rick
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I don't have a huge sewer need.....but like having an indoor bathroom for folks. What would you do?
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Post by smsmith on Jan 28, 2017 20:55:48 GMT -6
If re-sale is a major consideration, I'd go option 3. If it's a consideration, but only a "maybe" then I'd go option 2. Option 1 seems a like it isn't really a solution to me, but maybe I'm missing something.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 28, 2017 20:57:05 GMT -6
Being a JPS, number one. Sometimes those tanks empty themselves? Does all water need to go in the holding tank?
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Post by terrifictom on Jan 28, 2017 21:04:34 GMT -6
Most campers have 2 valves one for grey water and one for the toilet. When I had my permanent camper my grey water valve some how just didn't quite seal tight [hint hint] and would be empty when I came back up.
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Post by Foggy on Jan 29, 2017 13:58:51 GMT -6
I have no problems with a little sink water "leaking" onto my land. Sewage is another issue. I think a 500 gallon holding tank would last me an entire season......so I could just pump it out each fall. I doubt if anyone will ever take a shower and we would use paper plates and such......so no dishwashing. We'd use water (and thus sewage) sparingly.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Jan 29, 2017 14:33:20 GMT -6
With that little of use, If it were me, and since it does not sound like you are going legal anyways. I would put in the holding tank and run a drain tile out of the top hole of the holding tank to a man made hole or existing pond or swamp. Skip the drain field for now. You will only have to pump the tank about once every ten years. End of story!
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Post by sd51555 on Jan 30, 2017 10:00:51 GMT -6
When I saw the topic, I thought there was a DNR joke coming.
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Post by mclovin on Jan 30, 2017 10:08:43 GMT -6
Foggy if you use a plastic tank make sure you fill it with water before you backfill, also cover your pipe as you go. Nothing worse than showing up on the jobsite to realize it rained overnight, your ditches filled up with water and all your perfectly pitched pipe has floated and now needs to be redone.
In the real world we have to leave it uncovered for the inspector but we always cover it enough to keep it from floating.
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Post by Foggy on Jan 30, 2017 12:41:45 GMT -6
^ Good advice thanks. Never would have considered that to be an issue. Of course with my sandy land.....its hard to even make a puddle if you try. Do you know if you have to have a permit for a holding tank?? and does it need to be inspected to be legal? I thought I may just do this work myself.....via a small rental hoe.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Jan 30, 2017 12:51:31 GMT -6
^ Good advice thanks. Never would have considered that to be an issue. Of course with my sandy land.....its hard to even make a puddle if you try. Do you know if you have to have a permit for a holding tank?? and does it need to be inspected to be legal? I thought I may just do this work myself.....via a small rental hoe. Loose lips sink ships! Just do it!
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Post by Foggy on Jan 30, 2017 13:09:24 GMT -6
^ Good advice thanks. Never would have considered that to be an issue. Of course with my sandy land.....its hard to even make a puddle if you try. Do you know if you have to have a permit for a holding tank?? and does it need to be inspected to be legal? I thought I may just do this work myself.....via a small rental hoe. Loose lips sink ships! Just do it! I hear you MO. I used to follow the adage that "it's easier to get pardoned than get permission"......and in many things thats true. I still do allot of that approach. But the gubermint has gotten pretty rough with some of these environmental laws these days. If there are not too many hoops to jump thru.....I may get the needed inspections (if any). I'm in an area that is quite sensitive about their watershed (the Whitefish watershed)......so they watch like a hawk around here. I think Satch's land is in Cass County too......and he got in all kinds of hot water by taking the "just do it" approach.. Was hoping he would chime in on this.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Jan 30, 2017 13:12:23 GMT -6
Satch ain't in jail, don't worry about!
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Post by smsmith on Jan 30, 2017 13:27:24 GMT -6
When it comes time to sell, won't a holding tank that was installed without a permit become an issue?
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Jan 30, 2017 13:32:04 GMT -6
When it comes time to sell, won't a holding tank that was installed without a permit become an issue? No, because it does not exist. And you sell the trailer off, sell the land without it.
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Post by terrifictom on Jan 30, 2017 13:44:47 GMT -6
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