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Post by westbranch on Feb 2, 2017 13:04:08 GMT -6
If you and your wife are decent at lying by omission, you could just tell the nosy town folk that you're selling the house and are considering building/buying a new one. You don't have to tell them where the new one will be located That is what we were intending on doing, until a coworker approached me last week saying they had heard something from a someone that knows someone connection. Which kind of changed our plan. Also, my wife would not be good at that. Most of the people we work with our genuinely nice, which seems to be unusual these days. They would be interested in what are plans are and if they weren't nice people I wouldn't feel as bad about lying to them. Pretty much any job will be a downgrade of work environment, but we are expecting that.
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Post by westbranch on Feb 2, 2017 13:07:53 GMT -6
That's a tough one. I've seen employers react in all kinds of ways to folks giving their notice. Some seemingly crappy bosses have treated leaving employees with the respect and flexibilty that they deserve, while other "great bosses" will turn on the worker the very second they find out they are leaving. Best thing to do IMHO is to plan far enough ahead to make their reaction mute. If you've been there long enough, you probably already know what the likely outcome will be. Good Luck!!! There is one main boss, but 4 partners that are all bosses and I can somewhat predict reactions. It will at least be a good lesson.
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Post by Tooln on Feb 2, 2017 14:40:27 GMT -6
I'd be honest and not burn any bridges. If moving doesn't work out and you want beck in the are ain a few years the door may still be open. Good luck
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Post by Freeborn on Feb 2, 2017 14:41:03 GMT -6
This is a big decision particularly with them talking partner with you. You know the character of the current partners, is this a real solid opportunity, a maybe or slim chance? Do you plan on changing careers or do you plan on returning to accounting in Idaho?
Never burn your bridges unless you know you will never see or need these people ever; which means you never burn bridges. I would also not mislead them if they ask you.
I see two downsides to this, one you are leaving and two why you are leaving. There is a chance they might take it personal you walking away from a great opportunity unless there is a good reason for it. I know some of this is not there business but that does not change things. Partnerships in CPA firms are rare and a big deal! Make certain the reason for leaving comes across as a positive move for your family and not just because you want to get away.
If your hearts set on Idaho then I would sit down and write up what you think is an equitable earn/work out for your resignation period. Think through the positives and negatives for both you and the company and keep it professional. This is busy time for a CPA so they will want you to stay through that period. If you earn time off based on banked hours I would make certain you get paid for them. They should be willing to pay you for your hours as theoretically they don’t need to hire a replacement during the slow time of the year.
Good luck and hopefully we don’t lose you from the forum.
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Post by buckvelvet on Feb 2, 2017 14:46:35 GMT -6
Good luck and hopefully we don’t lose you from the forum. They dont gots internets in the Potato state?
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Post by Tooln on Feb 2, 2017 14:55:38 GMT -6
Since they are offering a partnership, is there any thought about opening a satellite branch in the spud state?
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 2, 2017 14:58:13 GMT -6
You ain't moving up by Ruby Ridge by chance are you WB?
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Post by Reagan on Feb 2, 2017 17:54:37 GMT -6
I'd be honest and tell them. Maybe not today but when you have to with the house on the market.
Like it was said before, what goes around comes around.
Don't burn any bridges.
I always had a plan in place when I put in a resignation. I have given a month or more notice before. Each of those former employers eventually tried to hire me back for more $. I didn't take it but it's good to know I have options.
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Post by sd51555 on Feb 2, 2017 18:05:52 GMT -6
All good points so far. I'll toss in one wild card. Don't assume bosses will act in the best interests of the company and respect what you've given. Lots of times I've seen bosses go on power trips and burn entire teams to the ground for the sake of pride or spite.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 2, 2017 18:08:33 GMT -6
In this day and age of accountants and CPA's, if you tell them you are leaving, there are searching for your replacement. Most places will have no problem making room for the new guy giving you a early exit. I would put my place on the market, get it sold and give them the two weeks that is required. No More!
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Post by westbranch on Feb 2, 2017 20:46:49 GMT -6
This is a big decision particularly with them talking partner with you. You know the character of the current partners, is this a real solid opportunity, a maybe or slim chance? Do you plan on changing careers or do you plan on returning to accounting in Idaho? Yes, it is a real chance. They have a "required" (in partnership agreement) buyout at 60 years old. In 5 years two of them turn 60. I have been doing the public accounting since out of college, and would like to get into a small to midsize company as an accounting manager/controller position to try that the different type of work. Now would be the time to do it as I am 28, it would be tougher in a couple years. Never burn your bridges unless you know you will never see or need these people ever; which means you never burn bridges. I would also not mislead them if they ask you. I see two downsides to this, one you are leaving and two why you are leaving. There is a chance they might take it personal you walking away from a great opportunity unless there is a good reason for it. I know some of this is not there business but that does not change things. Partnerships in CPA firms are rare and a big deal! Make certain the reason for leaving comes across as a positive move for your family and not just because you want to get away. If your hearts set on Idaho then I would sit down and write up what you think is an equitable earn/work out for your resignation period. Think through the positives and negatives for both you and the company and keep it professional. This is busy time for a CPA so they will want you to stay through that period. If you earn time off based on banked hours I would make certain you get paid for them. They should be willing to pay you for your hours as theoretically they don’t need to hire a replacement during the slow time of the year. Good points, these are things I have been thinking about. Good luck and hopefully we don’t lose you from the forum. It will probably be more fishing and hunting and less habitat work, but I should still be around.
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Post by westbranch on Feb 2, 2017 20:48:11 GMT -6
Since they are offering a partnership, is there any thought about opening a satellite branch in the spud state? 95% of the clients are within 60 miles of our two offices. We still have clients in almost every state, and realistically could do a large amount of work remotely but I am 99% sure they would not go for that.
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Post by westbranch on Feb 2, 2017 20:49:49 GMT -6
You ain't moving up by Ruby Ridge by chance are you WB Looks like that deal is 1.5-2 hr drive away from where we will be. It sounds like there is a large number of prepper types around, but we plan on living in town.
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Post by westbranch on Feb 2, 2017 20:57:51 GMT -6
In this day and age of accountants and CPA's, if you tell them you are leaving, there are searching for your replacement. Most places will have no problem making room for the new guy giving you a early exit. I would put my place on the market, get it sold and give them the two weeks that is required. No More! It is tough to find experienced people looking to work at CPA firms. Most come right out of college and move on after a couple years. The number of students graduating with accounting degrees has dropped quite a bit in the last 5 years as well. Talked to someone at a similar size firm to us (20 employees) in the cities last summer and they spent 6 months trying to hire someone with 5-10 years of experience and nobody applied. Issue for many firms all over right now. The issue is most don't have a plan in place for if they actually did have someone their to buy them out.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 3, 2017 3:53:55 GMT -6
In this day and age of accountants and CPA's, if you tell them you are leaving, there are searching for your replacement. Most places will have no problem making room for the new guy giving you a early exit. I would put my place on the market, get it sold and give them the two weeks that is required. No More! It is tough to find experienced people looking to work at CPA firms. Most come right out of college and move on after a couple years. The number of students graduating with accounting degrees has dropped quite a bit in the last 5 years as well. Talked to someone at a similar size firm to us (20 employees) in the cities last summer and they spent 6 months trying to hire someone with 5-10 years of experience and nobody applied. Issue for many firms all over right now. The issue is most don't have a plan in place for if they actually did have someone their to buy them out. As my daughter found out, its easy to find good cpa's, just have to pay the $80-100k they want! Trust me, coming from a guy that has been laid off when a company was hiring, anyone can be replaced at any time!
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