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Post by Bwoods11 on Dec 1, 2017 9:44:13 GMT -6
I have one farm that was nothing before we planted trees. It was old pasture, sandy tillable, a creek and slough/cattails. It now has tree rows, buffers, some block plantings... we did spruce, pine, cedar, plum, crab apple, chokecherry, caragana (do not recommend) and lilac (also do not recommend)...with oak as well. It changed the farm, 15 years into it now. I would say we have shot 300-400 roosters off it, a few deer, and the deer numbers are getting better, probably 10-12 deer on it now.
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Post by smsmith on Dec 1, 2017 20:48:59 GMT -6
^^^I can't wait until my evergreens get to be that size. It will completely change the hunting here (hopefully for the better)
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Post by smsmith on Dec 1, 2017 20:52:47 GMT -6
Maybe your right Stu, there may be a small minority of us compared to the world that plants trees, so we need too! I don't know if I'm right or wrong, but I gotta do what I think I should. Since it sounds like this will be NCR's last year in their current location, I'm probably done with planting trees by the hundreds/thousands. I'll order 75-100 bigger plugs from Univ. of ID and just go that route.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Dec 1, 2017 21:17:21 GMT -6
One of THE best farms in Pope County is near Sedan (south of Glenwood). It was a CRP farm planted to Spruce and Pine in late 80s..early 90s. Deemed a failure at first by the DNR, the trees survived better than expected. It's 280 acres and probably 200 acres of 20-30 foot Spruce and pine. Incredible. They shoot 150 inch deer on it regularly. I think they found 30+ sheds on it one year.
🌲 🌲 🌲 Changed a boring farm into a Whitetail paradise.
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Post by smsmith on Dec 1, 2017 21:23:18 GMT -6
Late 80s, early 90s...all I have to do is stay alive 25-30 years and I may have good hunting
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Post by Bwoods11 on Dec 1, 2017 21:46:03 GMT -6
That's right Stu!! 🤣
My experience has been year 7-10 on Spruce and Pine. Things start to improve!!
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Post by Bwoods11 on Dec 1, 2017 21:47:00 GMT -6
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Post by Catscratch on Dec 1, 2017 22:58:04 GMT -6
I like cedar too. But I do live in the only state that doesn't have a native pine. Love the pics on this thread. No prettier habitat than tall grass interpersed with evergreens.
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 2, 2017 4:50:03 GMT -6
I would swear that picture was taken on my place. I have 40 plus acres of cedar.
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 2, 2017 4:53:15 GMT -6
I like cedar too. But I do live in the only state that doesn't have a native pine. Love the pics on this thread. No prettier habitat than tall grass interpersed with evergreens. Then add an apple tree!
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Post by Catscratch on Dec 2, 2017 5:31:57 GMT -6
I like cedar too. But I do live in the only state that doesn't have a native pine. Love the pics on this thread. No prettier habitat than tall grass interpersed with evergreens. Then add an apple tree! Beautiful!
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Post by smsmith on Dec 2, 2017 7:43:14 GMT -6
I'm finding more little red cedars popping up every year. Apparently, cattle must keep them suppressed? Since the cattle have been gone for 6 years I'm finding more of a number of woody species showing up. I'll give the cedars a "pass" with the saw for now.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Dec 2, 2017 7:59:30 GMT -6
If I plant more switchgrass in Iowa... the cedars fill in almost immediately. They are plentiful down there.
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Post by Freeborn on Dec 2, 2017 8:29:55 GMT -6
When my CRP was planted the NRCS did not want to plant red cedar on my place. I'm not certain why but I did not push it. With all my Apple trees I'm hesitant to plant red cedar but they would probably do well on my sandiest soils.
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 2, 2017 8:54:24 GMT -6
Stu and Jerry. You have seen the cedars on my place. They make a good barrier when you drop them but most are in place. I am sure our local ecologist (I won’t call him a wildlife manager) would like to see them burned so we could have knee high grass and an occasional but oak.
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